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What part of D-E-C-L-A-R-A-T-I-O-N are you incapable of understanding?
Are you completely ignorant of the Constitution and its purpose/status or are you just acting that way?
Oh, so now the title of something, dominates its contents?
You'll be telling us next that the "Affordable Care Act" is affordable.
Five pages, and still not a bit of evidence that the leftists' screams are valid.
Back to the subject:
Since it is clear that its legal standing is unrefuted, what is the significance that the country's founding law includes a clause stating flatly that overthrowing an oppressive government is a "right" and a "duty" of the people of that country?
If the government becomes oppressive enough, does the government have any standing in an effort to resist it, or even to overthrow it?
The Constitution defines "treason" as including "making war against the United States"... but does not mention any effort to make war against the government of the United States, which is an entirely different thing. And one which, in fact, many of those same Framers wrote into the DOI as being an explicit right and duty of the people when oppressed by a tyrannical government.
Sounds like the Framers saw a conflict like this coming, from a long way off. They were a lot smarter than the present-day leftists give them credit for.
But then, that's true of the way leftists feel about most people who oppose them today, too.
"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.
And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.
Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.
What leads you to believe that a declaration of independence is law? Can you reference the applicable court cases or reasons?
because, uh, the US constitution made it clear to act against the US govt. is treason "SECTION 3. Clause 1. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open court."
So . . .Treason isn't legal, and I haven't ever heard anyone challenge a act of treason as unconstitutional (or un- declration of indepence)
I do wish Acorn would start making up reality as he sees fit to fit some odd weird view.
I would advise Little Acorn to find himself some friends and wage an attack on the govt. he thinks he should overthrow. Then we can all watch and see if his theory holds true
We're now going on four pages of protests from various leftists who keep insisting that the Declaration of Independence is "not a law".
And zero pages, zero posts, with evidence backing up their claim.
This is actually not the way it works.
You made a positive assertion that the Declaration of Independence and all of its parts are the law of the land, binding on its inhabitants. If you had some evidence to support this proposition we would expect you to present such evidence. Once you have presented whatever evidence you have the people who read your claims can evaluate the claims, think about the evidence, and decide whether to respond with countervailing evidence.
Maybe, if you ever present evidence to support your own idea, someone will do that, but I think we'll wait until you do.
Oh, so now the title of something, dominates its contents?
You'll be telling us next that the "Affordable Care Act" is affordable.
Five pages, and still not a bit of evidence that the leftists' screams are valid.
Back to the subject:
Since it is clear that its legal standing is unrefuted, what is the significance that the country's founding law includes a clause stating flatly that overthrowing an oppressive government is a "right" and a "duty" of the people of that country?
If the government becomes oppressive enough, does the government have any standing in an effort to resist it, or even to overthrow it?
The Constitution defines "treason" as including "making war against the United States"... but does not mention any effort to make war against the government of the United States, which is an entirely different thing. And one which, in fact, many of those same Framers wrote into the DOI as being an explicit right and duty of the people when oppressed by a tyrannical government.
Sounds like the Framers saw a conflict like this coming, from a long way off. They were a lot smarter than the present-day leftists give them credit for.
But then, that's true of the way leftists feel about most people who oppose them today, too.
We're now going on four pages of protests from various leftists who keep insisting that the Declaration of Independence is "not a law".
And zero pages, zero posts, with evidence backing up their claim.
Let me counter to say that the Declration of Independence was written by Aliens, and that Thomas Jefferson was a construct from the planet Vulcanoid. His sole purpose was to engineer the event. His robot features also included human genetic material, so that he could reproduce. At the time of his death, they replaced the robot with a clone of a genetic life form.
I make this assertions with the hopes that my random comment can be disprove by Little Acorn, since its obvious if you make an absurd claim it is not the need of the person making a claim to source or prove it. . but its true until which point someone can PROVE its not true
So with that logic,please prove Thomas Jefferson wasn't a bioogical cyborg from the planet vulcnoid, thanks
Thomas jeffersons parents were alien sympathizers, who believed in the future planet the vulcanoid's wish to leave behind.
"It is Their Right, It is Their Duty, To Throw Off Such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security."
Jefferson wrote that into the Declaration of Independence. He was describing what people should do if their government kept doing repeated actions that took away freedom; especially when that government made it clear that they were dloing it as part of a deliberate plan.
And the Declaration was voted unanimously into law, on July 4, 1776. And remains legally binding, just as any other laws passed then or since.
Overthrowing an oppressive government, isn't just a good idea. It's the LAW.
1. The declaration is not law. Its not even an official document of these united states.
2. I have been told by republicans that my right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness is only good as long as they agree with me. So if its law, the republicans break it repeatedly
You made a positive assertion that the Declaration of Independence and all of its parts are the law of the land, binding on its inhabitants. If you had some evidence to support this proposition we would expect you to present such evidence.
Which is why I did exactly that. More than once, in fact.
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Once you have presented whatever evidence you have the people who read your claims can evaluate the claims, think about the evidence, and decide whether to respond with countervailing evidence.
You are correct. And not a single one of them has offered the least bit of "countervailing evidence".
Thanks for agreeing that this is, indeed, "the way it works".
Too bad most of the other posters in this thread, think otherwise. Or at least, wish otherwise.
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Oh, so now the title of something, dominates its contents?
IF you had any common sense you'd realize it's far more than a 'title'.
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You'll be telling us next that the "Affordable Care Act" is affordable.
No, that seems to be your own inane idea.
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Five pages, and still not a bit of evidence that the leftists' screams are valid.
There's been NO evidence your inane allegation is valid, no need to prove anything else until you prove your alleged point.
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