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Old 07-11-2013, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Originally Posted by NoOBama View Post
Nope doesn't upset me, we just disagree.

Homo-sexual relationships are a counterfeit to Opposite sex relationships. The fruitful and multiply option is not available, and the parts don't fit.

It's really Anti-Natural law, Geometry, and Physics.
I have multiplied, and believe me, the parts fit just fine.

 
Old 07-11-2013, 05:10 PM
 
Location: California
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Originally Posted by NoOBama View Post
Nope doesn't upset me, we just disagree.

Homo-sexual relationships are a counterfeit to Opposite sex relationships. The fruitful and multiply option is not available, and the parts don't fit.

It's really Anti-Natural law, Geometry, and Physics.
Hey I respect that fact that you don't feel your opinions should be forced on others. That's what this country is all about, having your own beliefs but letting everyone else live according to theirs. Can't say the same for SuperSoul. I don't think I've ever as anti anything in my life as she is anti-gay.

However, there are some logical fallacies to a few of the points you've made that I will point out. First off, saying that homosexual relationships are anti-natural law is not necessarily true. There is homosexual activity in the animal kingdom. Is it a regular occurrence? No. So is homosexual activity a natural anomaly? Sure. It's different, it's not common, just like albinos, siamese twins, other things that are found in nature on an occasional basis. It doesn't make them "wrong".

Second you say...

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Originally Posted by NoOBama View Post
When it comes to trying to counterfeit what marriage has always, and will always be (Man/Woman).
This is a fabricated, shaved down version of what marriage has been. It is almost mythical. The opposite sex component is just one component of many that comprise this ever changing institution. "Traditional" marriage looked nothing like it does today. What you believe is the "right" way to do marriage is actually a very contemporary version that went through several evolutions and changes, some which people protested. See the thread below for further verification.


//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...myth-says.html
 
Old 07-11-2013, 07:07 PM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Time does not make right.

All they did was try to fit a square peg into a round hole. It don't fit no matter what comparison you try to make.

What people choose to do, is their freedom. Just like it is my freedom to disagree. When it comes to trying to counterfeit what marriage has always, and will always be (Man/Woman).
NO amount of brownie points will make it work. I'm sure the jury is still out on the children.

What may appear good for them.. is not good for the country. There is a difference.
And what makes you the final say on what is good and bad for the country? I say it's GOOD for the country, so I suppose we're at a stalemate.

Considering my gay coupled friends are currently taking care of children that heterosexual couples gave up..I'd say that's VERY good for the country.

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It isn't a good example, therefore, not healthy!
Why isn't it healthy? I'd rather see gay couples being happy together than any of the ridiculous married/fighting couples on reality tv. But I'm sure you think they're healthy because they're opposite sex regardless of how horrible an example they give to others?
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:37 PM
 
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Lol. You make no sense. And my healthy, happy relationship clearly upsets you, since you spend so much time railing against it.

This is what the antigay contingent has resorted to? Statements so ludicrous that they can't be argued with on a reasonable level? Time and again the facts and evidence have obliterated the fearful hypotheses of the antigay group. Yet, they keep plugging away? Why? That is unhealthy and points to unhealthy relationships. Perhaps if the antigays worked on creating happiness in thier own lives and relationships, they would stop creating bogeymen out of other people's relationships.
I don't go about creating a false agenda to have people accept my perversions, abnormalities, or fetishes.

My faults and failings are just that. I don't try to get gov't to accept them and make special arrangements for them.

If you can't see that the world is spiraling out of control, into an abyss of immorality, failed ethics, and corruption. Then your healthiness is defined like Michael Jackson redefined Bad.

Or the worst example "IT's ALL GOOD" ... well it's not all good, there is plenty of bad.

And the next generation doesn't need anymore excuse for a lack of morals... or nothing will ever be seen as bad.
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:42 PM
 
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Hey I respect that fact that you don't feel your opinions should be forced on others. That's what this country is all about, having your own beliefs but letting everyone else live according to theirs. Can't say the same for SuperSoul. I don't think I've ever as anti anything in my life as she is anti-gay.

However, there are some logical fallacies to a few of the points you've made that I will point out. First off, saying that homosexual relationships are anti-natural law is not necessarily true. There is homosexual activity in the animal kingdom. Is it a regular occurrence? No. So is homosexual activity a natural anomaly? Sure. It's different, it's not common, just like albinos, siamese twins, other things that are found in nature on an occasional basis. It doesn't make them "wrong".

Second you say...



This is a fabricated, shaved down version of what marriage has been. It is almost mythical. The opposite sex component is just one component of many that comprise this ever changing institution. "Traditional" marriage looked nothing like it does today. What you believe is the "right" way to do marriage is actually a very contemporary version that went through several evolutions and changes, some which people protested. See the thread below for further verification.


//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...myth-says.html
Anomaly? Okay... But one that people have control over, unlike Albino, siamese, etc....
The Animal comparison is awkward... We have the ability to overcome. Unlike Animals that just follow base instincts.
We Aspire, Dream, Contemplate, Create. We were created separate from Animals, yet with natures that are meant to be subdued, not to be subdued by.

Marriage has always been between Man & Woman. Some by choice, some by arrangement, but always opposite sexed.
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:46 PM
 
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And what makes you the final say on what is good and bad for the country? I say it's GOOD for the country, so I suppose we're at a stalemate.

Considering my gay coupled friends are currently taking care of children that heterosexual couples gave up..I'd say that's VERY good for the country.



Why isn't it healthy? I'd rather see gay couples being happy together than any of the ridiculous married/fighting couples on reality tv. But I'm sure you think they're healthy because they're opposite sex regardless of how horrible an example they give to others?
The more the country degrades into sexual immorality, the closer to destruction we get.
We will not survive at this pace.

It tares down traditional values, waters down the true meaning of marriage.

All the examples of how hetero's have failed in marriage, don't change the nature of marriage. It just points out how far from goodness we have gone.

To say homosexuals can raise kids, in that setting, because some hetero's suck at it, or are evil. Doesn't make it okay for two men to raise children. Or two lesbians to raise children... there's enough sucky hetero's doing it already.
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:48 PM
 
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I have multiplied, and believe me, the parts fit just fine.
Are you male or female?
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:50 PM
 
Location: southern california
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im not gay and i disagree. i think that marriage is being tested for its true identity. that is because divorce is at 67% actual and since no fault we have have 42 million plus divorces. a lot of people no longer believe in marriage and family. the leave it to beaver dream has been lost.
50% of eligible people are not married. if gays want to give it a shot let them.
fyi the stability of lesbian couples far exceeds the stats of straight marriage.
 
Old 07-11-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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Originally Posted by NoOBama View Post
I don't go about creating a false agenda to have people accept my perversions, abnormalities, or fetishes.

My faults and failings are just that. I don't try to get gov't to accept them and make special arrangements for them.

If you can't see that the world is spiraling out of control, into an abyss of immorality, failed ethics, and corruption. Then your healthiness is defined like Michael Jackson redefined Bad.

Or the worst example "IT's ALL GOOD" ... well it's not all good, there is plenty of bad.

And the next generation doesn't need anymore excuse for a lack of morals... or nothing will ever be seen as bad.
More nonsense. My love is not a fault. Period. You can scream that until you're blue in the face. You some just like the racists or mysoginists or any other emotionally handicapped bigot.

I'm done with you. You have called my relationship, my love a perversion and a fetish. Yiu clearly have no respect for me. People like you have no understanding of truth or love. I know why you post incessantly trying to spread your hate and anger. I know all about you. I may not respect you, but I pity you.
 
Old 07-11-2013, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The more the country degrades into sexual immorality, the closer to destruction we get.
We will not survive at this pace.

It tares down traditional values, waters down the true meaning of marriage.

All the examples of how hetero's have failed in marriage, don't change the nature of marriage. It just points out how far from goodness we have gone.

To say homosexuals can raise kids, in that setting, because some hetero's suck at it, or are evil. Doesn't make it okay for two men to raise children. Or two lesbians to raise children... there's enough sucky hetero's doing it already.
I wonder what it must like to be inside your head.

Do you close your eyes and pray to Jesus when you have to "do the naughty?" Or have you not done that because those sexual perversions are meant to be done only when you are married and only to produce children?

My best advice is go masturbate for a little bit, it will release some tension and make you feel better.

Oh and I will let my homosexual friends know they are horrible people for doing a great job raising their children to be moral people.
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