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Only you should determine your morals and values. I dont want you infecting my child with your 'supposed' knowledge of values or your morality.
I dont want you teaching my child your version of spirutality though your prayers in my public schools...that is my job. I dont know or care what your values and morals are...that is your business.
So you oppose the reading of "And Tango Makes Three" to young school kids?
The Republican's and their RWNJ supporters will spend ANY amount of money to return women to the slavery of unwanted pregnancy. The fate of the fetus is secondary to the unquestioned control of women by unworthy men.
I am a man and would never tolerate some other person telling me what I can or cannot do to my own body. As I will not impose anything on another that I could not tolerate I unconditionally support all women's right to make their own choices concerning their own bodies.
I was thinking more along the lines of introducing a little personal responsibility and reason into the abortion on demand scenario.
FTR, it's not the mother's body when it has different DNA.
As I understand it, the bill improves standard of care requirements -which can't be bad- and prohibits abortions (with sensible exceptions) after 20 weeks, which is the halfway point in the pregnancy. That's plenty of time for a woman to make her 'choice', isn't it? Some here argue that a fetus is part of the woman's body, like a wart or something. Be that as it may, is it unreasonable to give the benefit of the doubt to nascent life at this late point at the very least?
There are certainly pro-Life fanatics. Opposition to these eminently sensible and humane limits on terminating nascent human beings is evidence plain of pro-abortion fanaticism.
the bill would force clinincs to upgrade to hospital like requirements. those requirements would be cost prohibitive. most clinincs would have to close.
Yet again, here are our politicians posturing over a bill they know will get shot down. Roe Vs. Wade makes it quite clear what's allowed and what isn't. The so-called "fiscally conservative" Tea Party in Wisconsin just threw a bunch down the drain: Judge blocks new Wisconsin abortion law - Houston Chronicle It'll happen in Texas also when it gets challenged.
Anyone else tired of posturing that costs millions?
you must hate obama with every fiber of your being then, since hes in the trillions...
the bill would force clinincs to upgrade to hospital like requirements. those requirements would be cost prohibitive. most clinincs would have to close.
An abortion is not like having a tooth pulled now, is it....
One of the more tiresome tropes flowing from the 'choice' side of the debate is that any restriction (read: requiring responsible adult behavior) on abortion access will send women in to "back alleys". This bill will assure that women having fetuses removed will have access to a higher quality of care. The clinics won't have to become hospitals, but abortionists will have to have admitting privileges at at least one nearby hospital. That tends to eliminate the quacks and redounds inevitably to the benefit of the patient.
An abortion is not like having a tooth pulled now, is it....
One of the more tiresome tropes flowing from the 'choice' side of the debate is that any restriction (read: requiring responsible adult behavior) on abortion access will send women in to "back alleys". This bill will assure that women having fetuses removed will have access to a higher quality of care. The clinics won't have to become hospitals, but abortionists will have to have admitting privileges at at least one nearby hospital. That tends to eliminate the quacks and redounds inevitably to the benefit of the patient.
You are right...having a tooth pulled could cost me my life.
There is not rampant deaths form abortions at a typical PP type clinics either. You seem not to understand that clinincs cannot afford the massive costs of upgrading. that is the point. Dont be disingenuous as to the purpose of the upgrade restictions on the clinincs.
You can rationalize and say it is women will have "higher quality care"...but the outcome will be no care.
An abortion is not like having a tooth pulled now, is it....
One of the more tiresome tropes flowing from the 'choice' side of the debate is that any restriction (read: requiring responsible adult behavior) on abortion access will send women in to "back alleys". This bill will assure that women having fetuses removed will have access to a higher quality of care. The clinics won't have to become hospitals, but abortionists will have to have admitting privileges at at least one nearby hospital. That tends to eliminate the quacks and redounds inevitably to the benefit of the patient.
Where are all the bills to promote the safety of all other outpatient procedures? Until you find me some, we all know that this argument is a complete crock.
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