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Old 07-21-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Denver Tech Center
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Inconvenient truth #7, as evidenced by responses thus far in this thread:

7. When faced with an inconvenient truth, relatively few have the courage to face it and do something about it. Most find it much more comfortable to get angry and smear the messenger as "racist."
If you weren't racist, people wouldn't call you that. It's pretty simple.

 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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OP has an excellent point and immediately the blacks chime in and call him racist instead of listening to the truth. Until the black community can establish a better track record, they will not be respected. I would love to see racism wiped out, but it takes work from both sides, and far too many blacks would rather pull the race card than face facts...
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Houston
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If you weren't racist, people wouldn't call you that. It's pretty simple.
Bull****, people are labeled racist for the flimsiest of reasons on this site.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: texas
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Inconvenient truth #7, as evidenced by responses thus far in this thread:

7. When faced with an inconvenient truth, relatively few have the courage to face it and do something about it. Most find it much more comfortable to get angry and smear the messenger as "racist."
Your message being weak and unstustatiated, has nothing to do with whether you are racist or not...it has to do with you being uninformed.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:14 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I'm sorry, but whether you write yourself a pass or not, it absolutely is. Being critical of any entire subculture outside of your own and grouping them all into one to tell them why you are better than them fits racism to a T.

As you age, for your benefit, I hope you cone to realize that what you have written can be accurate for any individual person of any race and people are just people.

Until then, your judgement of others based on the color of their skin I the definition of racism. No matter how you justify it to yourself.
It's precisely this kind of a mentality why African Americans continue to lag in many key statistics of social health and prosperity. Any attempt at working on the root issue is denounced as "racism." Rather than holding people back, I would rather they empower themselves to be successful.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Denver Tech Center
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OP has an excellent point and immediately the blacks chime in and call him racist instead of listening to the truth. Until the black community can establish a better track record, they will not be respected. I would love to see racism wiped out, but it takes work from both sides, and far too many blacks would rather pull the race card than face facts...
I'm white. And yes I will play the "race card" to call out a racist. You calling it that is just your excuse to be racist so that you feel better about yourself. But sorry, if you share these generalizations without any stats behind it smearing the black community is spot on, then you may want to be honest with yourself...as it is racism.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:16 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Your message being weak and unstustatiated, has nothing to do with whether you are racist or not...it has to do with you being uninformed.
Read previous posts of others in thread.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:17 PM
 
Location: texas
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OP has an excellent point and immediately the blacks chime in and call him racist instead of listening to the truth. Until the black community can establish a better track record, they will not be respected. I would love to see racism wiped out, but it takes work from both sides, and far too many blacks would rather pull the race card than face facts...
What truth/ I will challenge him or you to debate any precivied truths you have. Just argue with provable faces and not myths...

Have at it.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:18 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I'm white. And yes I will play the "race card" to call out a racist. You calling it that is just your excuse to be racist so that you feel better about yourself. But sorry, if you share these generalizations without any stats behind it smearing the black community is spot on, then you may want to be honest with yourself...as it is racism.
I live in the Bay area. Do me a favor and go spend some time in East Oakland as I have and tell me if they do or do not have a cultural problem there. Then, repeat this in major cities all throughout America.

Note that similar problems exist in various white communities throughout the land (and other ethnicities), too, but they are simply still of greater concentration in many of today's African-American communities. And it is evidenced by the statistics.

Skin color is irrelevant except for the fact of correlation, not causation. The primary issue is one of cultural values. Arguing for causation is racism; pointing out correlation is not.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:19 PM
 
Location: texas
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Read previous posts of others in thread.
I want you now to justify your contention...dont run off. Debate.
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