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Old 07-21-2013, 11:37 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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1. Even though you have been subject to terrible things in the past and still face instances of racism today, you have to start taking some collective accountability for your disproportionately unfavorable homicide (majority black on black), education, employment, living standard, and life expectancy rates.

2. It is very difficult to set up the next generation of your communities for productivity and success when you perpetuate a culture that disparages education, hard honest work, and cohesive family structures and instead consciously glorifies get-rich-quick and "thug" mannerisms and mentality.

3. If you take the "easy" path of assigning blame for all of your troubles to isolated cases like Martin/Zimmerman and vilifying people in your communities who educate themselves as "acting white" rather than undertaking the hard path of examining and fixing your cultural values from the inside out, you will always be stuck in a cycle of disproportionate misery.

4. Insofar as your cultural leaders encourage you to assign blame for all of your troubles to cases like Martin/Zimmerman rather than focus you on repairing your cultural values, they are demonstrating that they do not really have your best interests at heart.

5. While racism of whites against blacks certainly occurs, it should also be acknowledged that there is plenty of evidence of black racism against whites as well. It works both ways.

6. While racism is wrong, non-violent profiling/selection on the basis of perceived cultural values is perfectly acceptable.


In conclusion, even though racist events do sometimes occur and are deplorable, the biggest thing holding you back is the state of your own culture within your communities. Observe that many other races/ethnicities in America other than just European-descendant whites have a reputation for being highly successful and prosperous. In civilization, there is only one sustainable path to success: get an education and work hard. Taking a look in the mirror and changing your values is the necessary but hard work that no one else can do for you.

While I hear a lot of things related to the plight of the African-American community being placed upon the Trayvon Martin case, I do not ever hear today's black thought leaders speaking to any of these truths.

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Old 07-21-2013, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Denver Tech Center
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What is the purpose of this thread? Black people don't need a lecture from somebody that could never imagine what it is like to walk in their shoes. You didn't say anything enlightening or new.

This forum has been overrun with racism, such as this thread, with the majority being white towards black.

People are people and threads like this don't help anyone.

Thanks.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:01 PM
 
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In a country of 300m people, it's impossible to speak in absolutes. But racism / discrimination largely does not occur based on physical traits anymore, but more so behavioral.

People aren't racist against blacks, but more so against the glorified gangster culture lived by so many. And guess what, people feel exactly the same about whites who act that way. Same could be said of Any demographic group.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:02 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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What is the purpose of this thread? Black people don't need a lecture from somebody that could never imagine what it is like to walk in their shoes. You didn't say anything enlightening or new.

This forum has been overrun with racism, such as this thread, with the majority being white towards black.

People are people and threads like this don't help anyone.

Thanks.
Do you know what doesn't help the black community today?

People indignantly choosing to remain in denial about a set of truths that have existed for a long time now rather than reflecting on them and undertaking a collective effort to change them.

The purpose of this thread is to point out to truths that people like you would rather ignore. Pointing out that black people today collectively have a cultural problem that is causing them a lot of social ills is not racist, even though it is oftentimes smeared as such.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:03 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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In conclusion, even though racist events do sometimes occur and are deplorable...It really is all y'alls fault.
A lot of it, yes.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Wow, you've taken patronizing condescension to a new level, OP.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Denver Tech Center
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Do you know what doesn't help the black community today?

People indignantly choosing to remain in denial about a set of truths that have existed for a long time now rather than reflecting on them and undertaking a collective effort to change them.

Pointing out that blacks today have a cultural problem is not racist.
I'm sorry, but whether you write yourself a pass or not, it absolutely is. Being critical of any entire subculture outside of your own and grouping them all into one to tell them why you are better than them fits racism to a T.

As you age, for your benefit, I hope you cone to realize that what you have written can be accurate for any individual person of any race and people are just people.

Until then, your judgement of others based on the color of their skin I the definition of racism. No matter how you justify it to yourself.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:08 PM
 
Location: texas
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1. Even though you have been subject to terrible things in the past and still face instances of racism today, you have to start taking some collective accountability for your disproportionately unfavorable homicide (majority black on black), education, employment, living standard, and life expectancy rates.

2. It is very difficult to set up the next generation of your communities for productivity and success when you perpetuate a culture that disparages education, hard honest work, and cohesive family structures and instead consciously glorifies get-rich-quick and "thug" mannerisms and mentality.

I do not ever hear today's black thought leaders speaking to any of these truths.
here is some truths which were complied by the US Census Bureau

http://www.census.gov/

82%
Among blacks 25 and older, the percentage with a high school diploma or higher in 2010.

2.9 million
Number of blacks enrolled in college in 2010, a 1.7 million increase since 1990.

$135.7 Billion
Receipts for black-owned businesses in 2007, up 53.1 percent from 2002. The number of black-owned businesses totaled 1.9 million in 2007, up 60.5 percent.

Your perceptions and the truth are not the same. Come hard with facts and statistics...not myths. Your argument is weak and lame.
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:09 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Inconvenient truth #7, as evidenced by responses thus far in this thread:

7. When faced with an inconvenient truth, relatively few have the courage to face it and do something about it. Most find it much more comfortable to get angry and smear the messenger as "racist."
 
Old 07-21-2013, 12:11 PM
 
Location: texas
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A lot of it, yes.
then you should have just posted that ...becasue everything else you posted is fantasy...
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