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Old 11-19-2009, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
They already do -- Welfare to Work. Plus cash assistance is limited to 5 years total over a lifetime. Plus, you know, "assess how they are spending the money they get", arent you asking that the government be intrusive, there? Why not let the free market work, in this case?

Anyway, you might look up the state of welfare and how it's changed since 1996 or thereabouts.
You might look in some poor people's houses and see their cable boxes, playstations, crates of coke, and bags of cheetos.

I spend my life intimately involved in the lives of the poor. i see the waste firsthand. Do you?

Yes. If you are going to forcibly take my money, I do get to say how you spend it.

 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Wherabouts Unknown!
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stan4 wrote:
Yes. If you are going to forcibly take my money, I do get to say how you spend it.
You wish!
 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Texas
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stan4 wrote:
Yes. If you are going to forcibly take my money, I do get to say how you spend it.
You wish!

Well, if I had my way...
 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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The people that sell play stations, cable boxes, cola and cheetos do not care where the money came from so long as their bills are paid. Supporting the poor is a byproduct of sustaining the cash flow to the private sector suppliers. There are plenty of commercial real estate investors that have become quite well off living on welfare rent money.

If we just wanted to keep the poor from starving and/or freezing in the dark we would put all of them in government owned concentration camps and supply them with the required food, water and shelter. We once called these poor houses, poor farms or debtors prisons and the commercial sector benefited very little from the arrangement.

 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Originally Posted by delusianne View Post
They already do -- Welfare to Work. Plus cash assistance is limited to 5 years total over a lifetime. Plus, you know, "assess how they are spending the money they get", arent you asking that the government be intrusive, there? Why not let the free market work, in this case?

Anyway, you might look up the state of welfare and how it's changed since 1996 or thereabouts.

Hey the government is all over TARP recipients and how they compensate their employees. You argue that this is OK since it is tax payer money. How is this different? Welfare recipients are using tax payer money, don't we deserve a say in how it is spent?

Your pretty selective in how and when you want the free market to work.
 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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If I was making 300k from investing a 6 million dollar lottery or inheritance I would consider myself very rich indeed. If I was working 80+ hours per week for the money I would consider myself well paid but not rich.
 
Old 11-19-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Texas
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If I was making 300k from investing a 6 million dollar lottery or inheritance I would consider myself very rich indeed. If I was working 80+ hours per week for the money I would consider myself well paid but not rich.
Most people I know in that salary range are the working 80 hour types.
 
Old 11-19-2009, 09:34 AM
 
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shorebaby wrote:
Your pretty selective in how and when you want the free market to work.
Let's face it...we're ALL selective in how and when we want the free market to work, but not everyone is willing to admit their bias.
 
Old 11-19-2009, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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shorebaby wrote:
Your pretty selective in how and when you want the free market to work.
Let's face it...we're ALL selective in how and when we want the free market to work, but not everyone is willing to admit their bias.

Not me I am all for free markets without government interference.
 
Old 11-19-2009, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I would likely prefer "free markets" with a large inheritance for the ante. Without the inheritance and socialist economy is far better.
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