A Nice Shift to the Right (What Republicans Need) (solution, economic, elect)

[petch751]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

Kindly explain what are insinuating? That I am dependent on government? Your response doesn't even make sense, and doesn't follow anything else that has been discussed here so far.

Are you attacking me because you don't like me pointing out a glaring weakness in your party?

You don't know anything about me.

However, I do hope you keep making divisive comments like this, as you only server to further alienate Democrats like me. In fact, I think you just illustrated my point.

Oh but notice how Obama lovers think they know everything about me.

[ellemint]

Originally Posted by vox populi

I know statistics pretty well. But to understand that you have no idea what you are talking about statistics are not even needed.

In order to apply statistics to anything one has to choose the right thesis first.

And your whole diatribe is useless as a thesis

the right thesis? What are you talking about?

[jazzy jeff]

Originally Posted by vox populi

except the data from November 1, 2012 are useless

Whys that? The polls of likely voters from Nov 1 were spot on.

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by Sco

What is the alternative? If Republicans attempt to appease the far right base pretty soon the middle will be 30% or 40%. The GOP base is shrinking due to demographics and the impending death of large numbers of older white voters. If Republicans stay connected to the aging far right tea party albatross too long they risk losing entire generations of voters.

It's changing as the economy improves too--less people are identifying as economic conservatives now that things are getting better, and they're becoming more moderate. So...you have a situation where a portion of the R's want to go even further to the right, when a chunk of their base is moving closer to the middle.
There's Been A Big Drop In People Who Call Themselves Economic Conservatives - Business Insider

[vox populi]

Originally Posted by ellemint

the right thesis? What are you talking about?

one can not view what is needed for somebody if he is viewing it from a standpoint of own interest, or own understanding of the problem. He can not formulate the correct thesis ( that is the name of the research goal I am using it semi-ironically) because he lacks the understanding of the need.

[vox populi]

Originally Posted by mb1547

It's changing as the economy improves too--less people are identifying as economic conservatives now that things are getting better, and they're becoming more moderate. So...you have a situation where a portion of the R's want to go even further to the right, when a chunk of their base is moving closer to the middle.
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it is actually only 3 percent lower than in 2010 - the exact same graph but from 2010 somebody posted today on the other thread.

It does not mean anything.
2%-3% is in the margin of error.



Republical economic identification is still strong:

[mb1547]

Originally Posted by Goinback2011

RINOs for President will never actually BECOME president anymore. Conservatives stay home when a RINO is the nominee.

But hard right conservatives won't win a general, because moderates and liberals won't vote for them (and there's MORE moderates and liberals than hard right conservatives), so I guess you're going to be out of the white house for awhile.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by jazzy jeff

Pure BS.
Nonvoters favor Barack Obama over Mitt Romney by a wide margin (59% to 24%). While most nonvoters (64%) have a favorable view of Obama, just half as many (32%) view Romney favorably.
Nonvoters: Who They Are, What They Think | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

I would bet those few Conservative non voters are most likely from already Red States. And by the way show me a poll that says 40 percent of the country identifies as Liberal? It is more like 40 percent identify as Moderate, and closer to 20 percent as Liberal.

Mitt Romney was no conservative..

[vox populi]

Originally Posted by jazzy jeff

Whys that? The polls of likely voters from Nov 1 were spot on.

no, they weren't.
and we are talking not about likely voters, but those who were NOT the ones.

Originally Posted by pghquest

Anti math, anti science? What the hell are you talking about. Please list for me the last GOP candidate that had these opinions...

Mitt Romney. John McCain. George Bush.

Name one that actually managed to get the nomination while proposing policies that weren't obviously ridiculous to anyone with a junior high grasp of mathematics.