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Old 08-13-2013, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by Ceece View Post
I would like to see more time and effort spent on stopping abuse and less on marketing food stamps to those who seem to be finding ways to live without them. I don't get the mentality of "if you qualify we need to give them to you". Not everyone who is poor needs food stamps. I suspect the back end is making money and the more food stamps given out the more money gets made.
Agreed...It's weird as hell.

There's a difference between having the programs made available and easy to navigate vs. marketing them like they're the latest video game.

Also, and I don't know about you guys, but it seems like a lot of forms for college, taxes, loans, etc. inquire about your status in terms of receiving food stamps. It's almost like "Hey, I wonder if I was receiving food stamps would checking this box help me in this matter?"

...in terms of the financial aid, taxes, loans, etc.

Weird and kinda creepy.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:25 AM
 
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I wonder about some of you! You and I pay taxes but somehow you feel the need to regulate what "Poor people "eat!
Let's see! I pay taxes to support the Military too! Should I be involved with what they eat? I thought freedom of choice was a American ideal but somehow just because somebody is on "food stamps" they now need to be 'socially engineered" on to what diet they should have and what foods they can eat?
Our soldiers earn their pay and benefits, including what they eat at the mess.

Long-term deadbeat freeloaders, on the other hand, do not earn what they're given. If perpetual parasites want to live on the public dole in perpetuity, they can eat what they're regulated to eat.

To compare our soldiers to freeloaders is uncouth and fallacious.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:27 AM
 
Location: California
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"regulating" what anyone eats is ridiculous and I don't care where they get the money. If they HAVE the money it's theirs, period. By the time you start picking out what kind of cereal someone can/can't get you've already lost the battle and gone off the deep end yourself. The only think you can debate is whether anyone gets it or not.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:43 AM
 
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"regulating" what anyone eats is ridiculous and I don't care where they get the money. If they HAVE the money it's theirs, period. By the time you start picking out what kind of cereal someone can/can't get you've already lost the battle and gone off the deep end yourself. The only think you can debate is whether anyone gets it or not.
Individuals on the public dole should not be using their food entitlements for liquor, soda, prepared foods, fast food, candy --- any foodstuffs with low nutritional benefit and/or sold at a premium must be disallowed.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:40 AM
bUU
 
Location: Florida
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I don't have to explain jack to you bubba.
I figured you didn't have any ideas that would work out well for anyone but yourself. Thanks for confirming that.

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What ever happened to that promise in 2008 that Obama would bring jobs to most people and put more people to work.
GOP senators vote to defeat Obama's jobs bill

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Meet the 40 Senate Republicans Who Betrayed Veterans By Killing $1 Billion in Jobs

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Posts like yours make me question you age.
Engaging in personal attacks like that isn't a mature way to express yourself. Also, refusing to acknowledge that reasonable people oppose right-wing egoistic greed is just self-ratifying nonsense. Not everyone is in favor of the callous disregard for those less fortunate you support.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:26 AM
 
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Manpower isn't hiring? Walmart has stopped overnight stocking? The military has shuttered enrollment?
There is no excuse for not being able to afford life sustaining food in this day and age.
what leads you to believe that that Wal-Mart wages can support a person?

maybe they're being forced to choose between food, healthcare, keeping a beat-up car running (since we have inadequate mass transit) and keeping a roof over their heads.
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Old 08-14-2013, 05:47 AM
 
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I wonder about some of you! You and I pay taxes but somehow you feel the need to regulate what "Poor people "eat!
Uh, yes. Because of the little detail you're leaving out. They are buying what they eat with my money.

If they buy their own food, they can buy what they want. If they are going to take my money, I get a say in how they spend it. See how that works?

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Let's see! I pay taxes to support the Military too! Should I be involved with what they eat?
Yes, you should. As an American citizen you should be concerned that the government is providing good food to the soldiers who defend us.

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I thought freedom of choice was a American ideal but somehow just because somebody is on "food stamps" they now need to be 'socially engineered" on to what diet they should have and what foods they can eat?
"Just" because somebody is on food stamps? Like that's some irrelevant little detail? Just because someone is spending my money why should I have any say in how they spend it? Do you realize how absurd you sound?
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Old 08-14-2013, 06:55 AM
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Location: Florida
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Someone's right to engage our society's economy for personal gain comes with a price tag. Self-motivated people need to stop trying to make it sound like the "rent" they pay to stake out a reasonably decent place in the economy that society makes available to them remains their money after they pay that "rent". It is no more so theirs at that point than the money someone pays to their landlord or mortgage holder remains theirs after being paid to the landlord or mortgage holder. We each have one vote with regard to decisions affecting society, including how the "rent" society collects for exploitation of the economy society furnishes gets used, in the public interest.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:07 AM
 
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Self-motivated people need to stop trying to make it sound like the "rent" they pay to stake out a reasonably decent place in the economy that society makes available to them remains their money after they pay that "rent".
Jealous much? Spoken like a proverbial freeloading, lazy deadbeat. Indeed, as absurd as Obama's "You didn't build that" debacle.

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