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I have no immediate intentions or plans to leave the US.
But if anything were to go amiss and our form of government changed for the worse..then all bets are off and I would leave.
That's the only thing that would make me seriously consider leaving the US.
The article says those 1300 people are expats, which means they have already departed the US, probably years ago. Might as well give up the citizenship if they have no interest in living here.
Make sure you have an exit strategy as our family does.
(In before rampant nationalism i.e. "good, let them leave")
Why? Do you really think that should it get that bad in the US anyplace on the planet will be better? If we go down the rest of the world will fall just as hard or harder....
I have no immediate intentions or plans to leave the US.
But if anything were to go amiss and our form of government changed for the worse..then all bets are off and I would leave.
That's the only thing that would make me seriously consider leaving the US.
Good luck living in Ireland. Their unemployment rate is only 15%, and GDP growth is negative. They are the second "I" in the PIIGS countries: Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain. The Celtic Tiger is dead.
We have been trying for awhile to find the proper documentation to get dual citizenship to Italy. There is one final piece of documentation we need to uncover then...BAM! 3 generations and all our offspring are going to go for it .
I don't really expect to renounce my US citizenship but one we get this the future generations can as well, and you never know what the future holds.
Good luck living in Ireland. Their unemployment rate is only 15%, and GDP growth is negative. They are the second "I" in the PIIGS countries: Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Greece, Spain. The Celtic Tiger is dead.
Unemployment isn't calculated the same as in the US so it's not even apples to apples comparison.
The US is #10 in the 2013 Index of Economic Freedom and Ireland is #11
Really not that far apart.
Unemployment isn't calculated the same as in the US so it's not even apples to apples comparison.
I didn't compare it to anything, I simply stated the fact that their unemployment is 15%, and that their economy is in far worse shape than us, and it is getting worse in Ireland. Their debt to GDP ratio is 120% for crying out loud. Everything you complain about US is worse there, and you want to move there???
I didn't compare it to anything, I simply stated the fact that their unemployment is 15%, and that their economy is in far worse shape than us, and it is getting worse in Ireland. Their debt to GDP ratio is 120% for crying out loud. Everything you complain about US is worse there, and you want to move there???
Actually no. Go back and read my post about the one reason I would leave.
The article says those 1300 people are expats, which means they have already departed the US, probably years ago. Might as well give up the citizenship if they have no interest in living here.
It's not a matter of "interest in living here" ...... it's about the TAX they have to pay each year.
It's an interesting concept - dual citizenship. I know many people who have it - the USA "rule" is that if you exit the USA then you must do so on a USA Passport. OK .... then they can track you. I've wondered - suppose you hold a dual UK/USA citizenship, you exit the USA on your US passport to the UK - then you use the UK passport (which allows work/banking/residency) to travel/live in another European Country. How does the USA find you and why should they bother to search for you unless you are some Mega Millionaire trying to avoid US Taxes? Almost anyone could (conceivably) disappear into any EU village or town with their UK passport.
And then there is Mexico ..... I know a couple that decided to sell up and move to Mexico about 8 years ago. They quit their jobs, sold their house, loaded up and drove across the border ..... headed for the West Coast of Mexico. They have come back for a visit only twice since they did that. Mexico doesn't care - you can't ever become a citizen, but they don't care about that either. You can work (they are both self employed in Tech work) and "pay" the officials for whatever you need. Most ex-pats in Mexico just rent a property, open a bank account or buy a REALLY big safe and live happy in a cheaper locale. Not a lot of IT guys and Web page designers in Mazatlan - they cornered the market some years ago and went native.
They love it. No "dual citizenship" needed - you just drive across the border and have a destination in mind. You would not believe how many USA Ex-pats live in Mexico - they just "drop out" and go stealth. Mexico doesn't care as long as you pay under the table and keep your nose clean.
Actually no. Go back and read my post about the one reason I would leave.
You have not given any specific reason, you only said 'if the government turns worse', and judging by your comments on this board you think it turns worse every day. What would the government have to do to get you to move?
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