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Wait, why aren't we charging more women with murder? Every month, thousands of fertilized eggs fail to implant. A high percentage of those that implant get miscarried before the woman knows she's pregnant. How can we just sit here knowing that the uterus of almost every woman out there is actually a ruthless MURDER ORGAN ?
All women should be sent to jail. Those poor blastocysts just being brutally killed by those heartless uteruses!
Reductio ad absurdum fallacy. Worthless posting that neither adds nor detracts from the OP's subject.
From the information available most abortions are of convienience not rape.
Most of th eproblems are due to abuse, not common sense.
Your really not going to like this ,but IMO
If there is an insident of a man causing a pregnency the woman was allowing, the man should be forced to have a vasectomy and the woman her tubes tied.
Both are required to forfit income to support said baby, even if adopted out , and no tax credits for kids .
No exceptions no reversals.
If sex is looked are more seriously than mere entertainment ,with serious perminant conciquences, behaviours will change.
But most of you don't like conciquences for your actions , only the actions of others aganst you.
Most don't like morality ,it interefers with your fun.
No wonder this country is going into the toilet.
And you think further immoraliy will make it better.
How about the lieing president you voted in.
How's that working out for you?
Reductio ad absurdum fallacy. Worthless posting that neither adds nor detracts from the OP's subject.
You forgot to use the word "jejune" in your little logicrage. -10 points
It's just hard for antiabortionists to admit that fetuses are being lost naturally every day. No one considers that murder or even death. No conservative is doing anything to prevent miscarriages. Yet if a woman has an abortion by choice or even for health reasons, all of a sudden, she's a murderer.
A 16 y/o was recently kidnapped by a 40 y/o man, who had a crush on her, and held captive for approximately a week before being shot and killed by law enforcement officials.
It's well within the realm of possibility that she was sexually assaulted during this time period.
Question>If she were impregnated, do you feel she should be forced to carry the fetus to term or have the choice to abort?
She should be forced to carry the fetus to term.
Something that pro choice people just can't seem to get into their thick skulls is that pro life people feel that abortion is murder. The pro choice rhetoric is that we just want to control women's bodies. But that's your rhetoric. It's not reality. We believe the fetus is a human being. Pro choice people get so blinded by their own self righteousness that they become incapable of understanding that their view isn't the only view. Just because you don't see it as murder, doesn't mean I don't see it as murder. Just because your propaganda is that I use calling it murder as a justification for trying to oppress women, doesn't make that the truth. I believe that being inside or outside the womb is simply a matter of location. It's a human being with its own individual DNA just like yours and mine. Just because it is in a different stage of development doesn't mean it isn't a human being. A 2 year old is entirely different from a 20 year old also.
So it's like me coming up with a story of a poor woman whose life is being ruined by caring for her child. She has to work two jobs just to afford clothes and food for the kid. Shouldn't she have the right to strangle the child so that she can get on with her life?
No, she shouldn't.
Same difference. It's not the fetus's fault that it was conceived by rape. And we don't kill innocent people to enhance other peoples' emotional well-being. The girl is perfectly able to give the child up for adoption. She never even has to see its face. If she needs therapy and support to get through the pregnancy, then she should receive it. But we do not murder other people so that we will feel better.
You forgot to use the word "jejune" in your little logicrage. -10 points
It's just hard for antiabortionists to admit that fetuses are being lost naturally every day. No one considers that murder or even death. No conservative is doing anything to prevent miscarriages. Yet if a woman has an abortion by choice or even for health reasons, all of a sudden, she's a murderer.
anti choicers never talk about all the "babies" stuck in the deep freeze at fertility clinics either
You forgot to use the word "jejune" in your little logicrage. -10 points
Fallacious statement. Zero relevance per the Op's topic.
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Originally Posted by seattlenextyear
It's just hard for antiabortionists to admit that fetuses are being lost naturally every day. No one considers that murder or even death. No conservative is doing anything to prevent miscarriages. Yet if a woman has an abortion by choice or even for health reasons, all of a sudden, she's a murderer.
Fallacious retort; Irrelevant to the contribution posted, re: 18 USC 1841, Unborn Victims of Violence Act.
Something that pro choice people just can't seem to get into their thick skulls is that pro life people feel that abortion is murder. The pro choice rhetoric is that we just want to control women's bodies. But that's your rhetoric. It's not reality. We believe the fetus is a human being. Pro choice people get so blinded by their own self righteousness that they become incapable of understanding that their view isn't the only view. Just because you don't see it as murder, doesn't mean I don't see it as murder. Just because your propaganda is that I use calling it murder as a justification for trying to oppress women, doesn't make that the truth. I believe that being inside or outside the womb is simply a matter of location. It's a human being with its own individual DNA just like yours and mine. Just because it is in a different stage of development doesn't mean it isn't a human being. A 2 year old is entirely different from a 20 year old also.
So it's like me coming up with a story of a poor woman whose life is being ruined by caring for her child. She has to work two jobs just to afford clothes and food for the kid. Shouldn't she have the right to strangle the child so that she can get on with her life?
No, she shouldn't.
Same difference. It's not the fetus's fault that it was conceived by rape. And we don't kill innocent people to enhance other peoples' emotional well-being. The girl is perfectly able to give the child up for adoption. She never even has to see its face. If she needs therapy and support to get through the pregnancy, then she should receive it. But we do not murder other people so that we will feel better.
you want to force women to remain pregnant, labor and deliver a baby then either give it up or raise it against their will. sounds more like a Nazi breeding camp than america.
you can think it is murder all you want. however in america women will never be forced to give birth against their will no matter how the pregnancy occurred. to think otherwise is third world american taliban thinking.
you want to force women to remain pregnant, labor and deliver a baby then either give it up or raise it against their will. sounds more like a Nazi breeding camp than america.
Fallacious statement; Godwin's Law; Zero credence.
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Originally Posted by hothulamaui
you can think it is murder all you want. however in america women will never be forced to give birth against their will no matter how the pregnancy occurred. to think otherwise is third world american taliban thinking.
Fallacious statement: Argumentum ad absurdium and ad hominem attack; Zero credence.
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