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Old 08-14-2013, 03:23 PM
 
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It's something the egalitarian, liberal progressive, master minds in the US envision as their holy grail. Force every American, thru the coercive and tyrannical power of government, to rely solely on a top, down, federal government run health care system. There would be no other medical care other then the single federal health care system.
Once again this would only apply to the U.S. of A. as most if not all the other countries who have a form of Universal Health care enacted same in response to the reasoned demands from their electorate.

Also most, if not all, have stats of performance across the board (for every single person) equal to, or better than, your cluster flop of an "I'm all right Jack; Fug you" hodge-podge, care-for-profit system that only covers those who can afford it, but you go on and believe what you've been told out front of the tent by the carnival barkers who have a vested interest in the status-quo.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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We already have Universal Health Care... its through private and non-private insurance... however what we have is people who buy and people who don't... when liberals talk about Universal Health Care, what they really mean is for people who don't buy AND buy, SPECIFIC other people will be force to buy for them...
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:27 PM
 
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Quite simple-- Coverage is universal for all citizens of the country.

You're wrong... Many countries have this. How can you determine if countries have universal health care if you claim to not understand the term?

Many countries also cover residents and even visitors. Since everyone is covered, coverage is said to be "universal".

I can't explain it any simpler or slower. But, please, don't let that stop you from posting whatever disingenuous followup you have obviously planned.
but the coverage is clearly not the same for all residents of the country.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:28 PM
 
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An even better question ... how can someone with enough knowledge and skill to use a computer to the degree necessary to access the World Wide Web, access and successfully subscribed to City-Data, and create & post a message, apparently not know how to use a search engine to find a simple definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_health_care
Universal health care — sometimes referred to as universal health coverage, universal coverage, or universal care — usually refers to a health care system which provides health care and financial protection to all its citizens. It is organized around providing a specified package of benefits to all members of a society with the end goal of providing financial risk protection, improved access to health services, and improved health outcomes. Universal health care is not a one-size-fits-all concept; nor does it imply coverage for all people for everything. Universal health care can be determined by three critical dimensions: who is covered, what services are covered, and how much of the cost is covered.
sourcing wikipedia. nuff said.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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so in all of those countries, each citizen gets the exact same health care for the exact same price? nothing is based on socioeconomic circumstances? the "rich" wait in line behind john q. citizen? do you honestly believe this?
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:31 PM
 
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but the coverage is clearly not the same for all residents of the country.
Uuh, you're working up to something, so why not just spit it out and get down to which country and what example you're using for this latest round of nonsense regarding those having a system called Universal Health Care that you will never see in your lifetime, in any case.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:32 PM
 
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Well, this liberal is damn tired of the poor/lazy, with Medicaid insurance, showing up at the ER with a bellyache. It's time to stop Medicaid for adults with 2 legs/2 arms and full mental faculties. They need to purchase some insurance like the rest of us 'working poor'. Cover their kids with Medicaid until 18, and then they get to buy some too! What a freakin' thought, paying for health insurance. Who knew?
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:33 PM
 
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A system in a compassionate society, where everyone put their money in a communal pot, so every single one of its citizens has access to health care and no one is terrified of getting sick and going broke.
Or, as the righties like to say....communism.
so it is not "universal." it's simply that "everyone has access." much like anyone who dumpster dives behind a mcdonalds has access to food. those who can afford morton's steak house, will still have the better access to food.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:35 PM
 
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Uuh, you're working up to something, so why not just spit it out and get down to which country and what example you're using for this latest round of nonsense regarding those having a system called Universal Health Care that you will never see in your lifetime, in any case.
I am not using any country as an example. I am saying that health care is not equal in any country. never has been, never will be. magic johnson does not have AIDS for one reason. money.
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Old 08-14-2013, 03:36 PM
 
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It's universal coverage, care is not universal at all.
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