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And what do you have to say to the millions of Americans who can't even FIND WORK! And if they did find work chances are the job didn't even offer health insurance! What world do you people live in, honestly?
It happens, a lot more often than you think. For instance, my friends son died from cancer several years ago. She lived in Canada. Her son was diagnosed with cancer, it was in the very early stages (usually a 85%+ success rate if action is taken quickly), but it took nearly a year for the operation to get approved. By the time he was approved, they said the cancer had progressed so far that the operation would not be useful and they had to do other treatments. Those treatments were again... scheduled 6 months later after they were finally approved. The treatments were unsuccessful, he died a year later.
Another friend of my was in the Canadian Military, he said the medical system was awesome... WHEN... he was in the military as they had "front of the line" status. No matter what his problem, he could be seen that day. After he got out, he said it took months to get an appointment and the system was burdened with ridiculous bureaucratic processes. If he wanted to get seen for something, he could pay cash at some places (which he did for most things).
Though who cares right? As long as we "feel" good about the poor decisions we make, all is well!!
Hahahaha! I love it. I swear all of you conservatives have some make believe Canadian friend who had a loved one die from waiting for cancer treatment in Canada. You know Canadians see you all do this and they get the biggest laugh out of it. My bottom dollar says you don't even know a Canadian.
Never the less, I'll play along with it.
So let me get this straight. You think that other people should die so that you can get your healthcare first, correct?
Actually that was your argument, that poor people shouldnt have debt
I don't even know where the hell you are going with this. I am making an argument in favor of Obamacare. It was YOU who brought other forms of debt into the conversation. Not me.
Therefore, 21% of potentially curable patients became incurable on the waiting list
Limited access to specialists is the reason most often advanced for the poor performance of the UK in treating lung cancer. This study demonstrates that, even for the select minority of patients who have specialist referral and are deemed suitable for potentially curative treatment, the outcome is prejudiced by waiting times that allow tumour progression.
The link refers to a study of 29 Lung Cancer patients in 1999, 14 years ago.
I wonder how long a person waits for treatment in the U.S. when they do not have insurance not the funds to pay for treatment.
Really? The mortality rate is worse for medicare patients than private insurance and gaining access to Medicare is not associated with an improved health status,
Results: The change in the trajectory of overall health status for the previously uninsured that can be attributed to Medicare is small and not statistically significant. For every 100 persons in the previously uninsured group, joining Medicare is associated with 0.6 fewer in excellent or very good health (95 percent CI: −4.8, 3.3), 0.3 more in good health (95 percent CI: −3.8, 4.1), 2.5 fewer in fair or poor health (95 percent CI: −7.4, 2.3), and 2.8 more dead (−4.0, 10.0) by age 73. The health trajectory patterns from physician objective health measures are similarly small and not statistically significant.
Conclusions: Medicare coverage at age 65 for the previously uninsured is not linked to improvements in overall health status.
Previously uninsured people who become newly eligible for Medicare are substantially more likely to be in poorer health than those who were previously privately insured. Once they have Medicare, they are more likely to seek treatment earlier.
No, it isn't. We need to protect the constitution. The "it sounds like a good idea, so who cares if the constitution allows it or not" attitude is endemic to liberals and it is dangerous.
So, exactly where in the constitution that allows the employer to provide the delivery of health care to Americans? "Lose your job, lose your ability to acquire health care". Now, what kind of stupid nutjob would even consider this to be even remotely constitutional? Allow insurance companies, pharma, hospitals anything remotely attached to medical care to jack their rates to the point even those with insurance go broke? When it pertains to this subject the US is the worlds laughing stock and not only that many feel that the US is extremely hypocritical on this matter, and they are correct.
Principal Findings: Persons with SSDI/Medicare had lower rates of Stages III/IV diagnoses than others for lung (63.3 versus 69.5 percent) and prostate (25.5 versus 30.8 percent) cancers, but not for breast or colorectal cancers. After adjustment, they remained less likely to be diagnosed at later stages for lung and prostate cancers. Nevertheless, persons with SSDI/Medicare experienced higher all-cause mortality for each cancer. Cancer-specific mortality was higher among persons with SSDI/Medicare for breast and colorectal cancer patients.
Conclusions: Disabled Medicare beneficiaries are diagnosed with cancer at similar or earlier stages than others. However, they experience higher rates of cancer-related mortality when diagnosed at the same stage of breast and colorectal cancer.
RESULTS: Unadjusted mortality for Medicare (4.4%; odds ratio [OR], 3.51), Medicaid (3.7%; OR, 2.86), and Uninsured (3.2%; OR, 2.51) patient groups were higher compared to Private Insurance groups (1.3%, P < 0.001). Mortality was lowest for Private Insurance patients independent of operation. After controlling for age, gender, income, geographic region, operation, and 30 comorbid conditions, Medicaid payer status was associated with the longest length of stay and highest total costs(P < 0.001). Medicaid (P < 0.001) and Uninsured (P < 0.001) payer status independently conferred the highest adjusted risks of mortality.
No, it isn't. We need to protect the constitution. The "it sounds like a good idea, so who cares if the constitution allows it or not" attitude is endemic to liberals and it is dangerous.
Sorry, but where in the constitution does it say anything about medical insurance?
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