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If you mean the Bush Florida debacle in 2000 and the Bush Ohio election theft in 2004, I agree with you.
No, I was referring to the FL newsclip and voter fraud in general. The 2000 was much bigger. There is pending litigation from 04 that came out in 2011 iirc, that looks like a MiM was used. However, all that is election fraud which is a much bigger issue imo. Like I said the same people reading everyone's email appear to have their hands all up in the election process.
If you mean the Bush Florida debacle in 2000 and the Bush Ohio election theft in 2004, I agree with you.
Bush Florida debacle? That was a Gore debacle. Gore supporters are just mad at the results. The Bush Ohio 2004 issue is a non-issue. It is a conspiracy theory that hasn't made it beyond far left wing sites like Truth-Out.org and even on those sites hasn't seen any new or updated information since 2011.
Bush Florida debacle? That was a Gore debacle. Gore supporters are just mad at the results. The Bush Ohio 2004 issue is a non-issue. It is a conspiracy theory that hasn't made it beyond far left wing sites like Truth-Out.org and even on those sites hasn't seen any new or updated information since 2011.
According to court docs it is far more than a conspiracy theory. Left/Right is irrelevant. Computerized elections are easy to game with much to gain. There is much evidence of this going on for a long time. After HAVA it got really easy to do. Goldman Sachs US election investment
According to court docs it is far more than a conspiracy theory. Left/Right is irrelevant. Computerized elections are easy to game with much to gain. There is much evidence of this going on for a long time. After HAVA it got really easy to do. Goldman Sachs US election investment
So, your reply to my assertion that claims of vote hacking have not made it past the likes of extreme-left political blogs is to reply with a link to one person's individual blog? Where are the major media outlets on this? You can believe if there were any credible evidence on the issue, MSNBC would be running 24/7 coverage would they not? Heck, ABC/CBS/NBC and probably even Fox would run coverage. It would too sensational not to.
So, your reply to my assertion that claims of vote hacking have not made it past the likes of extreme-left political blogs is to reply with a link to one person's individual blog? Where are the major media outlets on this? You can believe if there were any credible evidence on the issue, MSNBC would be running 24/7 coverage would they not? Heck, ABC/CBS/NBC and probably even Fox would run coverage. It would too sensational not to.
The thread is simply research from many different places. I most definitely encourage people to do their own research. You would prefer I give no information? The corporate media has covered this somewhat. However, your argument is flimsy and illogical.
The Big 6/NEP are giant media conglomerates, who in turn are largest shareholder controlled by the so-called govt. One simply needs to go look at some CAFRs and do the math. They will not bite the hand. They will also do what the controlling shareholder dictates. All of this is public information which can be gleaned from "official" sites. I can provide links, however, you seem inclined to not read them. Just need to spend the time.
People should do their due diligence if they truly want to know what is happening.
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I really like the idea of a voter ID law. However, I don't like it being sold as being done due to some idea of widespread fraud when there is no evidence of such activity. Local election offices utilize observers from both parties to watch and ensure our ballots are legitimate and free from fraudulent activities. Anytime I see new government regulations added to address a problem that doesn't exist I am kind of suspicious of just what the motives are behind it. Legislators don't have enough sense to address problems that do exist! Now if they would have came right out and said the law was for ensuring the integrity of future elections that would have been a different story, but too late to back track now and change the reasoning of the ID laws. Besides if fraud was really what they wanted to prevent, then the law would have addressed absentee ballots.
Holder's claim is absurd. A photo ID is required to board an airplane, cash a check, and conduct numerous other transactions. Am I the only black person on the planet who finds Holder's claim an insult to my intelligence?
Voter fraud runs rampant in Democrat-controlled precincts. In the last election, Obama won over 99% of the vote in over 100 Ohio precincts. In some precincts, Obama received more votes than there were residents. Obama supporters were prosecuted for voting several times.
If Holder and the Democrats can successfully ban states from requiring a photo ID to vote, it is game over. Democrats will magically win every election via massive uncontrollable voter fraud.
The assumption that black people are not as capable of getting an ID as white people is itself inherently racist. The left's opposition to voter IDs is rooted in its ambivalence to representative democracy.
As we saw in Nazi Germany and more recently in Egypt during the short reign of the Muslim Brotherhood, it is possible for tyrants to come to power democratically. Saddam Hussein was democratically re-elected every seven years with 100% of the vote.
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