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Tossed them how?? How in God's name was one person ever left alone with ballots? I've worked at the polls several times, usually as a warden, and I never had ballots thrown away. It doesn't matter if they're volunteers or if it's informal. You don't have to have a PhD in ballots to know that you don't throw them away
Can't argue that. Just telling you what I have seen reports of and video. Ballots being tossed doesn't appear to be uncommon. Don't have to be alone either. In that link with doc I posted, I believe more than one was tossing them. They just take the trash bag and dump it with the trash.
Think this is it.
From here. //www.city-data.com/forum/elections/1527342-goldman-sachs-us-election-investment.html
Oh, please, if voter fraud were so prevalent and so massive, you'd actually have reports of election outcomes being affected. You have no proof that there is a problem.
And your silly photo ID doesn't even address where most voter fraud is likely to happen, ABSENTEE ballots.
So, if you're supporting legislation to address a non-existent problem, and the legislation doesn't even address where the non-existent problem is most likely to occur, then what exactly is the legislation supposed to do?
It's supposed to ensure that the people voting are who they say they are. Doesn't matter if the problem is non-existent. If one day all murder stopped, the crime of murder would still be illegal. Just because we don't have a massive amount of evidence that people are casting false ballots, doesn't mean we shouldn't ensure that people don't.
It's supposed to ensure that the people voting are who they say they are. Doesn't matter if the problem is non-existent. If one day all murder stopped, the crime of murder would still be illegal. Just because we don't have a massive amount of evidence that people are casting false ballots, doesn't mean we shouldn't ensure that people don't.
Only two problems. It does not stop illegal votes...most of the illegal voters have photo ID.
And two it does not address absentee ballots where the vast majority of voter fraud occurs.
Si aside from mostly not working and not fixing the likely problem why do you feel it is a good thing...other than keeping poor blacks from voting that is...
Because EVERY SINGLE STUDY has shown that voter fraud is a minor problem (to the point of being virtually non-existent) that has NEVER impacted the outcome of an election in the United States.
It's common sense. Liberals say voter ID is suppression of the black vote. However, those same liberals defend welfare by saying that there are far more poor whites and and whites on welfare than blacks. So how is voter ID suppression of blacks if it affects more whites than blacks? The liberal contention that voter ID laws are the return of Jim Crow is pure poppycock. It doesn't follow any sort of rational thought. If something makes it harder for poor people to vote, and there are more poor whites than blacks, then that thing cannot be racist against blacks. There's simply no logic there. Secondly, where are the studies in states that do have voter ID showing massive disenfranchisement of minorities? Nowhere. All the "evidence" of voter suppression is pure speculation and conjecture no stronger than the evidence of voter fraud.
It's similar to immigration. Democrats of the past cared not at all about immigration. Harry Reid himself introduced a bill to remove birthright citizenship 20 years ago. But now the hispanic vote is key. And now suddenly we need comprehensive immigration reform because it is a vital human rights issue. And that very same Harry Reid says he refuses to let a bill come up to vote that doesn't include citizenship. It's nonsense.
Both immigration reform and voter ID are just Democrats wanting more votes and using faux outrage over nonexistent civil rights violations as a justification for a political power grab.
It's common sense. Liberals say voter ID is suppression of the black vote. However, those same liberals defend welfare by saying that there are far more poor whites and and whites on welfare than blacks. So how is voter ID suppression of blacks if it affects more whites than blacks? The liberal contention that voter ID laws are the return of Jim Crow is pure poppycock. It doesn't follow any sort of rational thought. If something makes it harder for poor people to vote, and there are more poor whites than blacks, then that thing cannot be racist against blacks. There's simply no logic there. Secondly, where are the studies in states that do have voter ID showing massive disenfranchisement of minorities? Nowhere. All the "evidence" of voter suppression is pure speculation and conjecture no stronger than the evidence of voter fraud.
It's similar to immigration. Democrats of the past cared not at all about immigration. Harry Reid himself introduced a bill to remove birthright citizenship 20 years ago. But now the hispanic vote is key. And now suddenly we need comprehensive immigration reform because it is a vital human rights issue. And that very same Harry Reid says he refuses to let a bill come up to vote that doesn't include citizenship. It's nonsense.
Both immigration reform and voter ID are just Democrats wanting more votes and using faux outrage over nonexistent civil rights violations as a justification for a political power grab.
Again you are trying to fix a problem that probably does not exist with a solution that does not work while leaving the only real problem alone.
This happened right at the polls. ID's would not have mattered. The follow up to this story is that the woman pleaded guilty but was representing only herself. She was not doing this as any kind of front for the Republican party although she stated she believed she was doing them a "favor" by filling in those ballots.
Again you are trying to fix a problem that probably does not exist with a solution that does not work while leaving the only real problem alone.
Both republican and democratic election boards have indicated the problem doesn't exist, republican legislators know better, not sure now but they know
It's common sense. Liberals say voter ID is suppression of the black vote. However, those same liberals defend welfare by saying that there are far more poor whites and and whites on welfare than blacks. So how is voter ID suppression of blacks if it affects more whites than blacks? The liberal contention that voter ID laws are the return of Jim Crow is pure poppycock. It doesn't follow any sort of rational thought. If something makes it harder for poor people to vote, and there are more poor whites than blacks, then that thing cannot be racist against blacks. There's simply no logic there. Secondly, where are the studies in states that do have voter ID showing massive disenfranchisement of minorities? Nowhere. All the "evidence" of voter suppression is pure speculation and conjecture no stronger than the evidence of voter fraud.
It's similar to immigration. Democrats of the past cared not at all about immigration. Harry Reid himself introduced a bill to remove birthright citizenship 20 years ago. But now the hispanic vote is key. And now suddenly we need comprehensive immigration reform because it is a vital human rights issue. And that very same Harry Reid says he refuses to let a bill come up to vote that doesn't include citizenship. It's nonsense.
Both immigration reform and voter ID are just Democrats wanting more votes and using faux outrage over nonexistent civil rights violations as a justification for a political power grab.
Psst. You're talking liberals here. Rational thought is non-applicable.
She voted with absentee ballots, how would requiring an ID on election day make a difference.
Bad example.
Perfect example why mail-in ballots should never be an acceptable way to vote.
The door is wide open for corruption from the most powerful.
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