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LOL ... not surprising that the gun humpers want everyone to forget about Newtown.
That psychopathic little nerd Lanza didn't have to go very far to get his hands on a military-style killing machine.
Thanks to the (detestable) NRA, it was sitting right there in paranoid mommy's bedroom...
Where do you get your information from. I own and support gun ownership. I guess that makes me a "gun humper" but I don't want to forget about Newtown. I don't belong to the NRA either. In fact, I don't belong to any gun organization.
That psychopathic little nerd Lanza THAT is the problem, not the gun.
Lanza had way different motives then Michael Hill. Mr. Hill had suicide on his mind, and even said he didn't want to hurt anybody. In fact, his few shots were not at people, but the floor. He was trying to provoke the police to shoot him. By no means am I taking his side, but he is no way comparable to Lanza.
So what does NBC's Ann Curry do, eyes brimming with unshed tears, look of intense sorrow on her face?
In response to yesterday's GA school shooting, she rushes to Newtown to interview parents of kids who died there.
She found 2 parents who actually had something to say about GA.
Oh, the drama.
On tonight's Brian Williams show.
Pitiful!
What's pitiful is that people like you drag their feet and would rather indefinitely stomach cases like another twenty-five dead kids in a classroom (among other more frequent mass killings of this sort) rather than even discuss any common sense gun control reform that works in other first-world nation, even those with an armed populace. What does that say about you?
In the wake of Newtown, it's not "exploitation" to talk about what we should be doing to protect the most vulnerable members of our society and keep more guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. It's the right thing to do. Had you ever been in the unfortunate situation of having one of your family members in that classroom, you might actually care.
What's pitiful is that people like you drag their feet and would rather indefinitely stomach cases like another twenty-five dead kids in a classroom (among other more frequent mass killings of this sort) rather than even discuss any common sense gun control reform that works in other first-world nation, even those with an armed populace. What does that say about you?
In the wake of Newtown, it's not "exploitation" to talk about what we should be doing to protect the most vulnerable members of our society and keep more guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. It's the right thing to do. Had you ever been in the unfortunate situation of having one of your family members in that classroom, you might actually care.
What is this reform you speak of that works?
Why do you assume that ALL the family members that had kids in that room feel the same way you do?
"Thanks to the (detestable) NRA, it was sitting right there in paranoid mommy's bedroom..."
I guess it bears repeating:
You talk about how there are many more gun owners who are not members of the NRA supporting their position, well here's another side of the same coin.
Yes, and do you realize that there are a whole lot of gun owners who are not members of the NRA and are for a more concerted effort by society to keep dangerous weapons away from dangerous people. As gun owners we hang around others with guns and I can honestly say that there are many, (not most, but many) gun owners who shouldn't have guns at all because they are angry, disturbed, loose cannons with a short fuse, waiting on a match.
Many times these marginal gun owners are the ones who spout "No restrictions on anybody, anytime, for any reason! The 2nd Shall Not Be Infringed and thank god for that because under normal circumstances, I'd never be able to own a gun in a responsible society."
Many gun owners who are not members of the NRA would like to see some safety training to tamp down some of the more trigger happy idiots in the gun community. More licensing, more background checks for ALL gun purchases and more training for gun owners.
It's called comprehensive background checks. It is not perfect and will obviously not eliminate all killings, but it is a solid step in the right direction. There should not be massive loopholes in terms of who can get guns without any oversight. And it works reasonably well in Switzerland, which may just have more guns per capita than we do.
But of course, it's very convenient to say, "oh, it will never work," because that then deflates the argument of having to do anything. And that's what the gun lobby wants - for nothing to be done, since it is not in their financial interest to change the status quo.
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Originally Posted by blackhemi
Why do you assume that ALL the family members that had kids in that room feel the same way you do?
Show me the parents of those dead kids who are saying, "Well, if the murder of my son/ daughter is the price we have to pay for everyone to be able to get guns easily, then I'm cool with it."
ANYONE who thinks that civilians (like the paranoid Lanza woman) should be allowed to purchase a weapon of war like that Bushmaster the little nerd used has the blood of those 20 kids on THEIR hands, in my view...
Why do you assume that ALL the family members that had kids in that room feel the same way you do?
The more radical and obdurate people are against any meaningful reform, the harder the whip will come down in the end. Society is just not going to take it much longer and your bumper sticker sloganeering will not carry your fight much longer, no matter what the 2nd amendment says. There is a point on the horizon where society will demand reforms. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail when the time comes so nobody takes our guns, but by God society will at least demand to be reassured that those who possess them are trained, sane and qualified.
Your whole argument.
"Guns don't kill people, people do"
"Criminals won't follow any laws"
"The more people carry guns, the better off society will be"
"Gun Control is hitting your target"
"Shall Not Be Infringed"
"Cold Dead Hands"
"reasonable restrictions is a liberal plot"
"Scotus is political towards liberals"
Society is getting tired of these same hackneyed arguments and something WILL be done.
To paraphrase what is said by LEOs the world over, "You can come along peacefully or in leg irons, a straightjacket and a spit mask. Your choice. Start a war over it and we're ready."
What's pitiful is that people like you drag their feet and would rather indefinitely stomach cases like another twenty-five dead kids in a classroom (among other more frequent mass killings of this sort) rather than even discuss any common sense gun control reform that works in other first-world nation, even those with an armed populace. What does that say about you?
In the wake of Newtown, it's not "exploitation" to talk about what we should be doing to protect the most vulnerable members of our society and keep more guns out of the hands of criminals and crazy people. It's the right thing to do. Had you ever been in the unfortunate situation of having one of your family members in that classroom, you might actually care.
While I agree with you on protecting the children in school, I do disagree with your methods. The reality is there is no way you will ever keep all guns away from all criminals and crazies, yes, you can weed out some with background checks but that is about it for now. Buzzers on doors and signs that say "Gun Free Zone" are useless, as we once again can see. The only answer to truely up the security of our school children is to have several trained and armed guards at every school, at least it would give the kids a fighting chance of survival instead of being shot like lambs at the slaughter house. I know many think that is over reacting but at the same time you have no answers to the problem except the mistaken idea that somehow one could take all the guns in the Nation away from the citizens, that will not be happening so what is you 2nd choice??
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but I don't want to forget about Newtown. I don't belong to the NRA either. In fact, I don't belong to any gun organization. 
