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Yep, it's always they are animals, savages, and heathens etc.
White people very very very rarely will use those terms in regards to white criminals. No matter how heinous the crime. This is why they can't understand the defensiveness of black people...they think it's defending criminals and criminal behavior. It's NOT. It's defending an attack by people who want to label entire races/ethnic groups as sub-humans.
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I would say that the black community are the primary victims of its thugs and lowlifes. When I read commenatry in the local news website, on crime stories, I have noticed a pattern that white criminals are seen differently than black criminal, by white posters.
When black Americans commit a crime, many whites who post go directly after their parents and disparage their parents, the perpetrator and whole community that they are from. Even when the black victim of a black on black homicide is assumed a thug and go what they were asking for.
On the other hand when I read stories of white Americans who commit terrible crimes, its seen as a mental problem and the parents are hardly ever mentioned. There are rarely terms like "Savage" used and the language is generally a lot less derogatory toward the perpetrator. I challenge everyone who has not witnessed this to do to your local news forum or comment sections and note the commentary about crime and see if the pattern I have witnessed holds true in your area. I would be surprised if it does not.
Because individuals are responsible for crime, not "race".
White people don't all rally together and protest when a white person kills and then charge themselves with guilt over a white person killing someone or committing treason.
How many white people stood up when Bradley Manning gave secrets away? How many said, "c'mon white people, we can do better than this"... NOBODY!
How many white people stood up when Tim McVeigh blew up the OK City Fed Building? How many said, white people need to stop using bombs to kill people? How many said, we need GUN CONTROL?
You being black has zero to do with black people committing crime. You're NOT RESPONSIBLE for crimes you didn't commit.
End the race baiting, and race panderers who make a living off of "being the voice of black people" the sharptons, the jacksons etc.
INDIVIDUALS COMMIT CRIME, RACE IS IRRELEVANT.
So you are telling me that you would be just as suspicious of this guy:
Yep, it's always they are animals, savages, and heathens etc.
White people very very very rarely will use those terms in regards to white criminals. No matter how heinous the crime. This is why they can't understand the defensiveness of black people...they think it's defending criminals and criminal behavior. It's NOT. It's defending an attack by people who want to label entire races/ethnic groups as sub-humans.
It's like those who suffer from anorexia in that they cannot see themselves as they truly are. They can be skin and bones but continue to see themselves as overweight. There is a lot of racism that still exist but many of them suffer from image distortion and they can't see it and refuse to see it...while it be keenly obvious to those with clear vision.
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So Tavis, Smiley, and Sharpton need to be shouted down by the "black community" but Limbaugh, Hannity, and all the rest of the Fox news/ talk radio idiots are allowed to exercise their right to freedom of speech? Are they a reflection of the entire white community? Do they represent you?
Do you not think that the majority of "anti" towards Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck is FROM the white community?
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Yep, it's always they are animals, savages, and heathens etc.
White people very very very rarely will use those terms in regards to white criminals. No matter how heinous the crime. This is why they can't understand the defensiveness of black people...they think it's defending criminals and criminal behavior. It's NOT. It's defending an attack by people who want to label entire races/ethnic groups as sub-humans.
You are very wrong about white people not calling other white people animals. It happens all the time. It may not be used for white collar crime (pardon the pun), but it certainly has been used for the violent kinds of crime.
You are very wrong about white people not calling other white people animals. It happens all the time. It may not be used for white collar crime (pardon the pun), but it certainly has been used for the violent kinds of crime.
Yes, I have bared witness that this is true....but its a small percentage of time compared to how often it is used to describe black criminals.....even black VICTIMS of crimes. The parents are rarely attacked and the community in which they live I have never read it being attacked.
Okay, for the record. I am black. I'm posting this as a response to the question that's been asked for so long. I've gone through countless threads reading statistics, data, etc showings that blacks [unfortunately] are over represented when it comes to violent crime. With that being said, that population is only a small population of blacks. I'm pretty sure many of the individuals quoting these stats verbatim do not encounter these types of black americans on a regular basis. As a black person I am also sickened by the crimes committed by certain members of my race, however I'm not going to go on a self-hate rant about my own b/c that does not solve anything and neither does being called an animal or being profiled for a crime that has nothing to do with me.
Now that that is out of the say, here is the answer to the question that so many have been asking? Why don't "good" blacks speak out against the crime in the black community. Why don't they denounce it? I call wrong wrong when I see it. Was I saddened by the GZ/TM verdict? You bet your ass I was! Do I find this to be a reason to kill whites in retaliation? No way! What does that do? Now we have two or more unnecessary deaths. Just because I am not actively devoting my life to speaking about against the issues in the black community does not mean that I don't care. Just because I'm not speaking publicly or w/ a megaphone does not mean I'm not speaking about it at all. Why is it that when a white person shoots up a school, whites are not expected to carry the burden for that one individual, however when a black person kills someone, we are all lumped as one as if we ALL committed the murder?
The reason that I don't devote my life to this cause is b/c IT'S NOT MY JOB!!!!! Sure I'll say something is wrong when it's wrong, I'll rebuke a black american if he's a thug or killing for the hell of it, however it is not my job to know what every black person on the face of the earth is doing at every given moment. Even if I did speak publicly against it, I cannot be in every black person's brain. I am my own person and I try to set a positive example of a black man, however I am NOT the poster child for one and it's NOT MY JOB to be one. Just b/c YOU encounter a black who dislikes whites or commits a violent act against a white person (and with all sincerity if you are a white person who's been attacked by one I am truly sorry) does not mean that EVERY black person that you meet will do that. Many blacks are joining the middle class and are moving out of the crime ridden neighborhoods that they grew up in. Just because you don't hear about it does not mean that blacks are not demanding a better life for their future generations. Oh and another thing, don't associate me w/ Jesse Jackson or "Reverend" (and I use that term very loosely) Al Sharpton as if they are the only speakers for black people and that I automatically idolize them b/c I happen to be black. I am a law abiding citizen and that's what I wish to be treated as.
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Thank you for your post.
I have known a lot of black people over the years (I'm nearly 70 now), and I can't think of any that I didn't like, that were not decent people, and did not want the same things in life that I have always wanted.
I have worked with blacks as well; some were my shipmates when I was in the Navy. At one job I held, as a field service technician for an oceonographic instruments company in San Diego, my immediate supervisor was a black man, and we did a week long training seminar together at the Browns Ferry Nuclear Plant in Huntsville, AL. It was a fun time (this was in the 1970's). I'm sure we raised some eyebrows even then, when we were out to dinner together, or at breakfast in the morning, as this wasn't usual for that part of the country, even in the 70's.
It is unfortunate that today, the media is creating the illusion that race relations are as bad as they were many years ago, when I was a boy. But, I think that is what it is; an illusion. We also have Jessie Jackson and his ilk creating that illusion.
But, I think that race relations are far better than they were decades ago, and we have prominent black people who are making a difference, who speak out (and up) and are doing their part to build a better America: Alan West, Dr. Ben Carson, Herman Cain, and people like Juan Williams (whom I've come to respect more and more, even thogh he's a "liberal" ... ha, ha) and numerous others that appear regularly on news broadcasts, giving their opinions and commentary.
I'm not an Obama fan, but it has nothing to do with his race. He is a socialist, and he is anti-America. Here again, it is unfortunate that those who support Obama blame those of us who don't for being "racist."
The statistics, as you pointed out, are not good. But (and I know I'll get blasted for saying this), the blame lies largely with Democrat policies. You cannot build character and good citizenship in people, and build help them to build a better life, by supplying there every need! What incentive does that offer them? They have to be able to see a path foreward, and a reason to put forth their own effort.
Sadly, the Obama economy makes life hard for everyone, black and white. Jobs are scarce, and what we used to call "full time" (40 hours) is being cut to less than 30 hours, and many are reduced to even less (part time only). This does not help, and those who are "poor" have even less incentive, and their desparation often leads to crime.
In order to have hope, we must have opportunity, and blacks need to believe that they can also participate in that opportunity. Poor government policies keep them from realizing their potential (this goes for poor whites as well).
The government cannot help people with "handouts." It must create a business climate that is conducive to growth, and prosperity. It is not government that creates prosperity. It is working men and women, who build the businesses that produce the products and services. That is what creates wealth. Wealth is not finite.
I'm too long here, but I hope I gave you something meaningful.
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The reason that I don't devote my life to this cause is b/c IT'S NOT MY JOB!!!!!
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I can empathize with that feeling. If you are living your life as a good person, and your family is made up of good people, why should you feel the need to go out of your way and try to convince some dysfunctional jerks to get their lives in order. If some person is a racist, a criminal, or a gang banger thug, you probably would even know how to relate to them anyway. So how the hell are you supposed to get thru to them?
We do have black men and women, who put themselves out there as leaders in the community, who lecture the public on racial and social matters. But these people are not running campaigns to turn the tide on out of wedlock births, school dropout rates, crime, drug trafficking and gang related crime. These people only seem to come out to show outrage over what they perceive as interracial discord and injustice.
As soon as some like Bill Cosby comes out over the failures he sees in the black community, these same supposed racial leaders are either critical of Cosby or refuse to engage in the conversation that is warranted.
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