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Old 04-05-2014, 09:28 AM
 
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Perhaps her mere image reminds these veterans of their pain, losses and the trauma they have been through? Have ever thought of that?

Maybe they are not "blaming", they just don't want to be reminded.
Yeah, I've thought of that. (Shoulder shrug)

Again, don't know why her image should bum them out so much. She's not to blame for ANYTHING.

The images that should anger them are Ike, Kennedy, McNamara, Johnson, Nixon, Dulles, etc...

Fonda isn't the source of their problems. Their anger is misdirected. She's just an easy target because they were unable to go after the guys who were really responsible for their predicament. I get it.

"I can't get them, so I'll get HER!"

It's the American way.
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No, they don't think about such things. They don't give a **** who they hurt as long as their political beliefs and philosophies are furthered. And that doesn't apply to just one side, either.
How is anyone's political beliefs furthered by not being angry at Fonda?

She's not to blame for Vietnam. It's that simple.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:31 AM
 
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I am in my 20s and I know that Vietnam Veterans have been treated horribly. This is history.

It`s not history at all. In fact the only ones who treated the Viet vets poorly were the American Legion and the VFW.
PART TWO: Spitting Image: this Legacy of Vietnam is a MYTH | Veterans Today
This is absolutely true.

The overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans were treated just fine when they came home.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:34 AM
 
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Shame on Obama for helping to perpetuate this nonsense.
Legend of the spat-upon Vietnam veteran | Opinion | The Seattle Times
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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This is absolutely true.

The overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans were treated just fine when they came home.
History or not history, this private business owner has his right to not show that movie, don't you think?

Why is it such a Controversial? Why would anybody risk losing businesses if the issue is not important to him.

Why would anybody lie about trauma they went through?

If he doesn't want to show that movie, he doesn't want to show that movie. Just let him be already.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:38 AM
 
Location: San Marcos
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This is absolutely true.

The overwhelming majority of Vietnam veterans were treated just fine when they came home.
Were treated fairly??? I am an OIF/OEF vet, and I have a multitude of organizations and benefits compensation, and even praise for my service. This simply just isn't true for the brave warfighters that came before me. The truth is, there was a HUMONGOUS anti-war movement that was going on at the time, not to mention a counter-culture movement. I knew countless Vietnam Vets, including three of my uncles that provided personal testimony about their mistreatment by the majority of American citizens. So I do not know your age, or your sources of information, yet I am very curious were you came about the knowledge to make such a bold statement??
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:41 AM
 
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A Kentucky Movie Theater owner who trained pilots for the Vietnam War is refusing to show the hit movie The Butler because it features Jane Fonda.
Is it time to forget??
Movie Pictures | Movie Posters - Yahoo! Movies
Not for him, apparently. I think it's foolish to run a business with emotion, but that's his right. Then again, he's getting some publicity from this, so it might be a good call, business-wise.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:43 AM
 
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History or not history, this private business owner has his right to not show that movie, don't you think?

Why is it such a Controversial? Why would anybody risk losing businesses if the issue is not important to him.

Why would anybody lie about trauma they went through?

If he doesn't want to show that movie, he doesn't want to show that movie. Just let him be already.
I couldn't possibly care less about this man or what he shows in his theatre.

I'm only saying that his anger is stupidly misplaced.
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Were treated fairly??? I am an OIF/OEF vet, and I have a multitude of organizations and benefits compensation, and even praise for my service. This simply just isn't true for the brave warfighters that came before me. The truth is, there was a HUMONGOUS anti-war movement that was going on at the time, not to mention a counter-culture movement. I knew countless Vietnam Vets, including three of my uncles that provided personal testimony about their mistreatment by the majority of American citizens. So I do not know your age, or your sources of information, yet I am very curious were you came about the knowledge to make such a bold statement??
Your uncles are simply dead wrong.

And yes, there was a huge anti war movement. Good...there should have been.

But they didn't mistreat the troops. Vietnam vets came home and did just fine. Yeah, some had issues with readjustment, but that's normal.

But this whole "abused, tortured Vietnam vet" stuff is a load. It didn't happen.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Jane Fonda was and is a ditz. And the owner of a theater can show whatever he pleases. But likewise, people who have no use for American militarism and the ****ty little rednecks who glorify it can keep their dollars out of this guy's business.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yeah, I've thought of that. (Shoulder shrug)

Again, don't know why her image should bum them out so much.
Maybe because of these

http://www.1stcavmedic.com/Jane_Fonda/Jane_gun.jpg

http://www.mrconservative.com/files/2013/04/fonda3.jpg

Maybe these Veterans just don't want to be reminded. not showing her, ugh "hit movie" is part of letting go? Just maybe?

Let him be.
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Old 04-05-2014, 09:46 AM
 
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Were treated fairly??? I am an OIF/OEF vet, and I have a multitude of organizations and benefits compensation, and even praise for my service. This simply just isn't true for the brave warfighters that came before me. The truth is, there was a HUMONGOUS anti-war movement that was going on at the time, not to mention a counter-culture movement. I knew countless Vietnam Vets, including three of my uncles that provided personal testimony about their mistreatment by the majority of American citizens. So I do not know your age, or your sources of information, yet I am very curious were you came about the knowledge to make such a bold statement??
It may depend on where someone is from. I'm a Vietnam-era vet myself (no combat duty), and I know many combat vets who weren't treated any differently because of their service. This was in Chicago in the early-mid '70s. Other parts of the country, or even Chicago, may have been different.
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