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nvxplorer.... You still didn't answer my questions?? What are the sources you draw this information from??? Is this personal-experiential knowledge?? If theoretic, by what sources did you draw your information from?? Or, may I ask, is this a generated hypothesis on your part??
Don't worry, I will match you... Once you draw your sources, can correctly cite the information, and can PROVE that this isn't some left-wing conspiracy-theory nut-job quotes that you saw on some Youtube video, I will be serious with you....
How is anyone's political beliefs furthered by not being angry at Fonda?
She's not to blame for Vietnam. It's that simple.
And if I were around in WWII and I went over to Germany and gave Hitler a big juicy kiss and Himmler a blow job, would you not be angry, or at least have a raised eyebrow?
Sorry, hyperbole. Can't resist. More realistically, If I were to go to Germany at the time and smile as I sat on the 88mm gun flaks that were blowing your countrymen out of the air, would you not be a bit upset?
Keep in mind that I am not a yankee-doodle patriot. I disagree with most every military action we've taken. I'm anti-government, for the most part. I do not think our military should be anywhere but right here in our own kingdom. But, AT THE TIME, what that woman did was damn stupid at best and criminal at worst.
Ultimately, none of this matters to the OP topic. It's his theater; he can show what he likes. And there is no justification for demonizing him for not showing Ms. Fonda. Yes, you do have the right to disagree and not go to his theater in response. But that's where it should stop. Just like I have a right to dislike Ms. Fonda for whatever reason I choose, or not dislike her. That's the wonderful thing about the concept of free agency. But free agency generally does not include going to a nation that we are at war with and playing footsie.
nvxplorer.... You still didn't answer my questions?? What are the sources you draw this information from??? Is this personal-experiential knowledge?? If theoretic, by what sources did you draw your information from?? Or, may I ask, is this a generated hypothesis on your part??
I don't recall any questions from you, but my post about Vietnam vets, of whom I am one, is personal experience.
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Don't worry, I will match you... Once you draw your sources, can correctly cite the information, and can PROVE that this isn't some left-wing conspiracy-theory nut-job quotes that you saw on some Youtube video, I will be serious with you....
Is this directed at me? Not sure where you're going.
I don't recall any questions from you, but my post about Vietnam vets, of whom I am one, is personal experience.
Is this directed at me? Not sure where you're going.
Correct me if I am wrong and I will be the first to admit that I am always wrong.
I have never seen combat, but I do have several friends who are combat Veterans. Their experiences are not exactly the same. Some even enjoyed their time in the Military. Some hated. Different people have different experiences.
So maybe your experience as a Vietnam Veteran is not the norm? I am not saying you are wrong, i am just saying why judge?
If some veterans believe they have been mistreated, maybe they have been.
nvxplorer.... You still didn't answer my questions?? What are the sources you draw this information from??? Is this personal-experiential knowledge?? If theoretic, by what sources did you draw your information from?? Or, may I ask, is this a generated hypothesis on your part??
Don't worry, I will match you... Once you draw your sources, can correctly cite the information, and can PROVE that this isn't some left-wing conspiracy-theory nut-job quotes that you saw on some Youtube video, I will be serious with you....
Sorry, thank you for your service. Your information is obviously experiential, based in the Chigago area. However, if you lived a life in the North East coast of the Untied States in the sixties, based on your knowledge of the atmospherics of the area, could you deny that segregation and racism existed??? I'm sure experiences differ in Massachusetts compared to Alabama. Do you think that I am not straying far from the truth in that assumption???
Now, your own personal experience, not having undergone combat-trauma, and in Chigago.... Wouldn't you say that it is an unfair assumption to GENERALIZE every Veteran experience SOLELY based on your own??? Maybe your experience has differed from the hard-charging recon Marine Sniper that spent most of his days in the bush watching his boys pass, then comes home to visit his mom and dad in San Francisco and is too SCARED to even open up and talk because of the massive public opinion that was in the air degrading them for their service???
As a combat vet, the worst thing "outside the wire" isn't witnessing death, getting blown-up, or shot at! It is realizing your own mortality, then knowing you can't stop, you gotta suck it up, and keep pushing, no matter how many of your boys pass.... Then coming home, even to indifference, can absolutely be heart-wrenching!!
Sorry, hyperbole. Can't resist. More realistically, If I were to go to Germany at the time and smile as I sat on the 88mm gun flaks that were blowing your countrymen out of the air, would you not be a bit upset?
The difference is that we were clear aggressors in Vietnam. We weren't the innocent saints we affected to be in WW2 either, but at least we had the excuse of fighting other, arguably worse aggressors who were *not* fighting in their own countries.
And if I were around in WWII and I went over to Germany and gave Hitler a big juicy kiss and Himmler a blow job, would you not be angry, or at least have a raised eyebrow?
Sorry, hyperbole. Can't resist. More realistically, If I were to go to Germany at the time and smile as I sat on the 88mm gun flaks that were blowing your countrymen out of the air, would you not be a bit upset?
Keep in mind that I am not a yankee-doodle patriot. I disagree with most every military action we've taken. I'm anti-government, for the most part. I do not think our military should be anywhere but right here in our own kingdom. But, AT THE TIME, what that woman did was damn stupid at best and criminal at worst.
Ultimately, none of this matters to the OP topic. It's his theater; he can show what he likes. And there is no justification for demonizing him for not showing Ms. Fonda. Yes, you do have the right to disagree and not go to his theater in response. But that's where it should stop. Just like I have a right to dislike Ms. Fonda for whatever reason I choose, or not dislike her. That's the wonderful thing about the concept of free agency. But free agency generally does not include going to a nation that we are at war with and playing footsie.
Bad analogy. Hitler declared war on this country.
The North Vietnamese didn't. They weren't bothering us at all.
We went there meddling in their business and got whipped.
Correct me if I am wrong and I will be the first to admit that I am always wrong.
I have never seen combat, but I do have several friends who are combat Veterans. Their experiences are not exactly the same. Some even enjoyed their time in the Military. Some hated. Different people have different experiences.
So maybe your experience as a Vietnam Veteran is not the norm? I am not saying you are wrong, i am just saying why judge?
If some veterans believe they have been mistreated, maybe they have been.
I didn't judge anyone. I wrote basically the same thing you're writing here. Not sure how you interpreted my post, but maybe you should reread it.
Maybe these Veterans just don't want to be reminded. not showing her, ugh "hit movie" is part of letting go? Just maybe?
Let him be.
Let him be?
I don't know the guy and I don't care one wit about the guy or his theatre
As for the pics...big deal.
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