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Old 08-25-2013, 07:02 PM
 
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On the insurance application is a question Have you used tobacco in the past 12 months.

Doesn't the answer to that question depend on the definition of the word use?
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:51 PM
 
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Is it?
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:19 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Hey, it's only fair.
If you smoked a cigar last Christmas,
you're the same as a three pack a day smoker.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:48 PM
 
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Hey, it's only fair.
If you smoked a cigar last Christmas,
you're the same as a three pack a day smoker.

does the cigar incident count as using tobacco?
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Old 08-26-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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Obamacare is a catch phrase put on some legislation by lawmakers who wanted to tie a difficult issue to a name that had positive connotations. Your questions are about something completely different.
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:16 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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On the insurance application is a question Have you used tobacco in the past 12 months.

Doesn't the answer to that question depend on the definition of the word use?
What - did you use tobacco to wash your car? Line your bird's cage? If a health insurance company is asking the question and you seriously need to interpret the word "use", let's all hope that insurance company offers robust mental health coverage.

The answer to "Have you used tobacco in the past 12 months?" should be a very, very simple Yes or No. People who want to make this simple question complicated are merely trying to dodge the question (likely) or trying to look clever (Big fail).
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Old 08-26-2013, 05:34 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Considering how much more people will have to pay as a tobacco user, I can imagine that many "users" will put down "no" - and just hope that they don't get caught...lol. Wonder how they'd test for tobacco use anyhow, especially for occassional pipe and cigar smokers - doesn't nicoctine go out of the system quickly, unlike, say marijuana?

One thing's for sure, there's going to be a lot fewer admitted users of tobacco than in reality going forward, and it's not hard to understand why.
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Old 08-26-2013, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Obamacare is a catch phrase put on some legislation by lawmakers who wanted to tie a difficult issue to a name that had positive connotations. Your questions are about something completely different.

It needs to be renamed the ObamaTAX, because that is what it really is.
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Old 08-26-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I believe OP is inquiring about whether Bill Clintons use of a cigar would be considered by Obamacare to be 'used tobacco'...

And if so, for Bill, or for Monica?
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Old 08-26-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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does the cigar incident count as using tobacco?
Yes, in fact it does.
So you agree that one cigar a year
is the same as three packs a day?
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