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Seeking "cheap" labor from "illegals" is just a glaring example of the lack of concern big businesses have for their communities and the fact that they feel no social responsibility to support the communities in which they have gained much wealth.
Which is totally irrelevant when the government will not enforce it's laws is it not?
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You bought a house in 1985.......you know that's over 25 years ago. Are you saying nothing has changed in our country, there has been no major shift in our economy since that time, so what YOU did THEN would still work today?
I didn't say that there was no difference but yes it would still work today. Not in NYC but you do what you have to do to get where you want.
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If so, I disagree with that position. Are you completely ignoring or "forgetting" the Great Recession of 2007, 2008, and which we are still climbing out of.....and are you forgetting NFTA......which made a huge difference in our economy and the lifestyle of such a large segment of our population, for example, people who worked in manufacturing?
You must not be aware of the late 70's early 1980's economy. Remember, my interest rate was 9.9% and you have to consider why it was so high.
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However, again, the last time the minimum wage was raised was 2009. That increase did not cause the destruction of big businesses then, and it will not hurt businesses NOW to increase the minimum wage. TODAY people work two minimum wage jobs just to pay their rent and to pay for the very basic necessities of life, such as utility bills, clothes, transportation, school supplies for kids, etc., etc. Also, the minimum wage has NOT kept up even with the rate of inflation. Period.
As I said, I am not against a bump in the minimum wage but the problem is the reasons it needs bumped more than anything.
And exactly WHY should I waste my time "disproving" any of the conclusions drawn in that article? I did notice that there was no mention of NFTA and the effects of that Agreement upon employment in the U.S. However, THIS thread is NOT ABOUT OBAMA. Are you trying to hijack the thread?
This thread is about fast food workers striking for an increase in their wages, plus drawing attention to the issue of the bill which has been introduced to RAISE the MINIMUM WAGE to $10.10 per hour. Since when does Obama pass bills ALONE?
Is it possible for you to make a single post without a bitter attack on Obama, regardless of the subject of the thread?
No, didn't think so. Some people are just a one-trick pony I guess.
Yep, a race to the bottom. THe interesting thing is that the people saying things like that on this forum are mostly peons, themselves.
Lmao!
You DO realize that's completely counterintuitive I hope?
It would be the peons complaining about capitalism, not the other way around. People who have succeeded in life in the USA would be those that think capitalism works just fine.
Of course when you said that, you didn't have a clue what the poster's station in life is anyhow.....you just wanted to say something snarky.
Which is totally irrelevant when the government will not enforce it's laws is it not?
I didn't say that there was no difference but yes it would still work today. Not in NYC but you do what you have to do to get where you want.
You must not be aware of the late 70's early 1980's economy. Remember, my interest rate was 9.9% and you have to consider why it was so high.
As I said, I am not against a bump in the minimum wage but the problem is the reasons it needs bumped more than anything.
So, you justify the "criminal" actions of big-money companies by blaming the "government" LOL. Do not "individual people" who are businesses/corporations (remember the US Supreme Court ruled that they are just like individuals/people) have any moral obligations? LOL Are they exempt from moral and social responsibility because they are so wealthy, IYO? Obviously, the answer to those questions would be yes.
Wow, you're sensitive. Happy Texan made no reference to Obama at all in his post, yet you accuse him of comparing Obama to Hitler? HT isn't even the one who brought Hitler into the conversation, and you're jumping down his throat over the topic. Must have touched on a sensitive subject for you. Either that, or you're just a very bitter person.
That's right. I made a totally objective opinion on Hitler and never once compared him to any US President past or present or to anything politically connected with US history.
Some people are fixated on associating every comment made with Obama.
They are obsessed with PC loyalty.
Sorry to disappoint. Obama is not in my thoughts 24/7 like he is with some others.
He is ONLY asking congress for permission ( it is required by the constitution to do so) because his English buddies were smacked down in their goal of attacking Syria.That leaves the French LOL to help...its not because Obama gives a crap about the constitution he has no choice but to ask now...attack by himself and get destroyed or weasel his way out of it because he knows Congress will never give him permission.
I was responding to a post which implied that Obama is like Hitler and that he has manipulated laws and people so that at any time he can become a dictator. That's simply not true. He does NOT have that kind of power.
I agree, he has put himself in a corner and he really needs politically to get Congressional approval in order to strike Syria. I wouldn't be so sure that Congress will not approve a strike.
Actually, it is NOT required by the Constitution for the President to get permission from Congress to make such a strike on Syria. He has 60 days after the first strike in a situation like this before he has to get permission to "go to war" with Syria.
Btw, THIS conversation is far, far, far off the topic of this thread.
Wow, you're sensitive. Happy Texan made no reference to Obama at all in his post, yet you accuse him of comparing Obama to Hitler? HT isn't even the one who brought Hitler into the conversation, and you're jumping down his throat over the topic. Must have touched on a sensitive subject for you. Either that, or you're just a very bitter person.
One would have to be enormously dense NOT to see the connection being made between Hitler and Obama in that post. Re-read the second sentence of the post, particularly the "he also".....
Bottom line, however, is that this thread is NOT about Hitler or Obama. It's about workers striking for a pay increase and seeking to draw attention to the bill which has been introduced to raise the minimum wage in 2013. Btw, I've been under the impression that Ht is a woman. Nobody has promised 100% employment, and nobody expects 100% employment as TnBound suggested he expects from a Socialist country.
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