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Old 09-06-2013, 06:29 AM
 
Location: I live wherever I am.
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I'm finally going to come out and say it. I'm sick and tired of other people causing me to have to pay for things that I don't want. If that's not tyranny, or at least the rape of my freedom, I don't know what is.

So I have a simple solution.

If you voted for Obama or any of the Senators or Representatives who voted in favor of Obamacare, YOU pay for Obamacare. We all benefit, since that's what YOU wanted, but the extra cost above what people are currently paying for health care is borne by YOU.

If we go to war against Syria and you voted for any of the politicians who approved it, YOU get higher taxes to pay for it. Those who never wanted those politicians in office don't have to suffer for the garbage they dump on America.

This is the same for conservatives as well. For example, if you voted for the people who approved war against Iraq and Afghanistan, YOU pay for that war.

If you want to stop paying for this stuff, vote against the politicians who approved it. As soon as you officially log a vote against those people, you are relieved from the responsibility of paying for [whatever]. If you want to stop paying for it earlier on, sign onto a successful recall petition which removes that politician from office.

I guarantee you that such a policy would return a significant level of fiscal responsibility to America. When we get over the "it's okay, someone else will pay for this" mentality, we can achieve fiscal responsibility.
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Old 09-06-2013, 06:57 AM
 
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I'm finally going to come out and say it. I'm sick and tired of other people causing me to have to pay for things that I don't want. If that's not tyranny, or at least the rape of my freedom, I don't know what is.

So I have a simple solution.

If you voted for Obama or any of the Senators or Representatives who voted in favor of Obamacare, YOU pay for Obamacare. We all benefit, since that's what YOU wanted, but the extra cost above what people are currently paying for health care is borne by YOU.

If we go to war against Syria and you voted for any of the politicians who approved it, YOU get higher taxes to pay for it. Those who never wanted those politicians in office don't have to suffer for the garbage they dump on America.

This is the same for conservatives as well. For example, if you voted for the people who approved war against Iraq and Afghanistan, YOU pay for that war.

If you want to stop paying for this stuff, vote against the politicians who approved it. As soon as you officially log a vote against those people, you are relieved from the responsibility of paying for [whatever]. If you want to stop paying for it earlier on, sign onto a successful recall petition which removes that politician from office.

I guarantee you that such a policy would return a significant level of fiscal responsibility to America. When we get over the "it's okay, someone else will pay for this" mentality, we can achieve fiscal responsibility.

It's akin to your second amendment conundrum now. You have such a proliferation of weapons in your society now that to even suggest attempting to reduce them would result in warfare. You now have no choice but to continue to allow their further proliferation; that's the reality of today.

Where you have a significant segment of your population totally dependant upon government largesse; to try and eradicate that dependancy would also result in warfare of a different kind. You have no choice now but to continue down the road of 50% of you dragging the other 50% along like a millstone around your neck. To suggest voting as a way of changing that is to ignore the 50% or more who would vote to maintain it.

In short, your political structure is now hamstrung on the voting teeter totter you encouraged by allowing lobbyists and through voting your self interest.

You're F***ED!
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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That's a terrible idea.

Did Bush run on invading Afganistan? It wasn't on the radar till two planes slammed into the World Trade Center.

How can you make a decision that you want to pay for something you don't know will happen when you cast your vote?
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:05 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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well anytime now the leftitst conspiracy nuts will come out of the wood work and say it was an "inside job" and Bush had a remote control that forced the planes into the trade center towers.


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That's a terrible idea.

Did Bush run on invading Afganistan? It wasn't on the radar till two planes slammed into the World Trade Center.

How can you make a decision that you want to pay for something you don't know will happen when you cast your vote?
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:05 AM
 
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Riiiight. So unemployed people exclusively are supposed to pay for unemployment benefits, people living below the poverty line exclusively are supposed to pay for Medicaid, and disabled military veterans exclusively are supposed to pay for VA benefits. It makes perfect sense!
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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well anytime now the leftitst conspiracy nuts will come out of the wood work and say it was an "inside job" and Bush had a remote control that forced the planes into the trade center towers.
Just like right wing nuts come out of the woodwork and say that Obama was born in Kenya as part of a massive communist Muslim Atheist conspiracy?

Nuts exist, deal with it. Applying crazy crap small segments spout to real debate is just poisoning the well.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:14 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Niagara Falls ON.
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I see that you don't understand the concept of the modern "Nation State".
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I'm finally going to come out and say it. I'm sick and tired of other people causing me to have to pay for things that I don't want. If that's not tyranny, or at least the rape of my freedom, I don't know what is.

So I have a simple solution.

If you voted for Obama or any of the Senators or Representatives who voted in favor of Obamacare, YOU pay for Obamacare. We all benefit, since that's what YOU wanted, but the extra cost above what people are currently paying for health care is borne by YOU.

If we go to war against Syria and you voted for any of the politicians who approved it, YOU get higher taxes to pay for it. Those who never wanted those politicians in office don't have to suffer for the garbage they dump on America.

This is the same for conservatives as well. For example, if you voted for the people who approved war against Iraq and Afghanistan, YOU pay for that war.

If you want to stop paying for this stuff, vote against the politicians who approved it. As soon as you officially log a vote against those people, you are relieved from the responsibility of paying for [whatever]. If you want to stop paying for it earlier on, sign onto a successful recall petition which removes that politician from office.

I guarantee you that such a policy would return a significant level of fiscal responsibility to America. When we get over the "it's okay, someone else will pay for this" mentality, we can achieve fiscal responsibility.

How are you going to figure out who voted for who, genius?

A list of people who voted against Obama would be every liberal's wet dream.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Gone
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I'm finally going to come out and say it. I'm sick and tired of other people causing me to have to pay for things that I don't want. If that's not tyranny, or at least the rape of my freedom, I don't know what is.

So I have a simple solution.

If you voted for Obama or any of the Senators or Representatives who voted in favor of Obamacare, YOU pay for Obamacare. We all benefit, since that's what YOU wanted, but the extra cost above what people are currently paying for health care is borne by YOU.

If we go to war against Syria and you voted for any of the politicians who approved it, YOU get higher taxes to pay for it. Those who never wanted those politicians in office don't have to suffer for the garbage they dump on America.

This is the same for conservatives as well. For example, if you voted for the people who approved war against Iraq and Afghanistan, YOU pay for that war.

If you want to stop paying for this stuff, vote against the politicians who approved it. As soon as you officially log a vote against those people, you are relieved from the responsibility of paying for [whatever]. If you want to stop paying for it earlier on, sign onto a successful recall petition which removes that politician from office.

I guarantee you that such a policy would return a significant level of fiscal responsibility to America. When we get over the "it's okay, someone else will pay for this" mentality, we can achieve fiscal responsibility.
Sorry Charlie but that is not how our system works, otherwise we would all have the same say, I would say I would be very against spending my tax dollars on building bridges to nowhere
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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Like their is an itemizer app tax payers can use on their i-phones to decide which budget items they want to support.
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