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The DC Shooter had a criminal past and mental issues. Yet the guns that he LEGALLY purchased with the current restrictions were only bought 2 days prior to him ending the lives of 12 other people.
I'm a strong believer in people being allowed to own guns, but I believe as strongly that there needs to be a much more thorough registration process than what we currently have now.
So my question, to those of you who don't think that any regulation is necessary, or that what we have is enough is this: have the facts of this case as we now know them give you any sort of pause in your belief that there should be no regulation, or no stricter regulation?
And as I type this I can see some people using the old "if guns were illegal he'd just get them illegally" So let me get past that right now.
#1 I am not saying "guns should be illegal" I'm saying there should be stricter regulations and perhaps some mental aptitude tests. I have a feeling a guy who was telling his friends and neighbors that the microwave was talking to him, wouldn't have passed.
#2. If he couldn't buy it legally he would have just bought it illegally on the street, so what's the point? I'll break that down into 2 parts. For the "he would have just bought it illegally on the street, if he couldn't buy it legally" that's simple. Pharmacists need to get a prescription from a Doctor in order to sell you vicadin even though you can just go buy it illegally, so that point is moot. Second, "so what's the point?" The point is that if a guy with a criminal past who was determined to be mentally unstable enough to operate a weapon was in fact trying to buy a weapon, law enforcement could make an attempt to keep an eye on him. And in this case specifically he probably wouldn't have been granted entrance into the building.
The DC Shooter had a criminal past and mental issues. Yet the guns that he LEGALLY purchased with the current restrictions were only bought 2 days prior to him ending the lives of 12 other people.
I'm a strong believer in people being allowed to own guns, but I believe as strongly that there needs to be a much more thorough registration process than what we currently have now.
So my question, to those of you who don't think that any regulation is necessary, or that what we have is enough is this: have the facts of this case as we now know them give you any sort of pause in your belief that there should be no regulation, or no stricter regulation?
And as I type this I can see some people using the old "if guns were illegal he'd just get them illegally" So let me get past that right now.
#1 I am not saying "guns should be illegal" I'm saying there should be stricter regulations and perhaps some mental aptitude tests. I have a feeling a guy who was telling his friends and neighbors that the microwave was talking to him, wouldn't have passed.
#2. If he couldn't buy it legally he would have just bought it illegally on the street, so what's the point? I'll break that down into 2 parts. For the "he would have just bought it illegally on the street, if he couldn't buy it legally" that's simple. Pharmacists need to get a prescription from a Doctor in order to sell you vicadin even though you can just go buy it illegally, so that point is moot. Second, "so what's the point?" The point is that if a guy with a criminal past who was determined to be mentally unstable enough to operate a weapon was in fact trying to buy a weapon, law enforcement could make an attempt to keep an eye on him. And in this case specifically he probably wouldn't have been granted entrance into the building.
I kinda of agree. After all what better way to establish a data base of substandard, non productive citizens so we are better equiped to round them and send them to the gas chambers!
Current HIPPA privacy laws would have to be amended to allow our government to decide who is fit to own an gun. Does anyone trust our government to make that decision? Could I be excluded because I was temporarily depressed because I lost my elderly parent?
What good are new gun laws when the old ones are not enforced? The man had been arrested at least twice for firearm violations. Neither case was prosecuted.
Either do away with the old laws and write new laws which will be enforced, or start enforcing the laws that are already on the books.
Very few people are unwilling to have a discussion around the mentally ill owning guns. The problem is it is a very complicated discussion that involves people's rights that extend beyond the 2nd amendment. To do anything you are going to have to make the argument that you have a right to trump a persons right. It might even take a Constitutional Amendment.
That said this is the discussion we should be having, not how we should curtail the Constitutional Rights of the overwhelming vast majority that do not abuse those rights.
He bought ONE weapon and then took two handguns from victims.
The one weapon he purchased was a shotgun.....which isn't even considered when people talk about gun laws.
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Right, even Joe Biden says everyone should have a shotgun for self defense and fire it through the door if you suspect you are being targeted by criminals.
Very few people are unwilling to have a discussion around the mentally ill owning guns. The problem is it is a very complicated discussion that involves people's rights that extend beyond the 2nd amendment. To do anything you are going to have to make the argument that you have a right to trump a persons right. It might even take a Constitutional Amendment.
That said this is the discussion we should be having, not how we should curtail the Constitutional Rights of the overwhelming vast majority that do not abuse those rights.
Well said
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