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It's counter-intuitive to you maybe, but that doesn't mean it's counter-intuitive.
You're right that it doesn't necessarily mean it is counter-intuitive. But in this case, it is in fact counter-intuitive. It means you are worshiping a being whose goal is to bring eternal suffering to all mankind. You can't get more counter-intuitive than that.
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There's absolutely nothing morally wrong with worshiping Lucifer as one's main deity.
Of course there's something morally wrong with worshiping Lucifer. Lucifer is the very definition of morally wrong. Lucifer is the personification of evil. I don't personally believe there is a Lucifer, but if you believe that Lucifer exists then it is depraved to worship him.
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So long as the people doing keep to themselves and aren't hurting anyone, then who are you or me to deny them their freedom of religion?
Saying that it is counter-intuitive to worship Satan is not equivalent to denying someone's right to worship him. I think it is the height of stupidity to be a liberal, but I certainly don't deny that people have the right to be liberal if they want.
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I'm agnostic, so I don't have to worry about any of this nonsense, but if people are going to force their opinions down other people's throat just because they're doing something they don't agree with then when does "freedom" end and "regulation" begin?
You're right that it doesn't necessarily mean it is counter-intuitive. But in this case, it is in fact counter-intuitive. It means you are worshiping a being whose goal is to bring eternal suffering to all mankind. You can't get more counter-intuitive than that.
Even if it is counter-intuitive, why would we even bother with it? Let the people who do that sort of worshiping figure out the logic and reasoning behind it. We know better and aren't warped in the head, so just let them have their fun
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Of course there's something morally wrong with worshiping Lucifer. Lucifer is the very definition of morally wrong. Lucifer is the personification of evil. I don't personally believe there is a Lucifer, but if you believe that Lucifer exists then it is depraved to worship him.
To you there's something morally wrong with it, sure; however, to the people worshiping Lucifer obviously they have no qualms with it. Also, I don't think you get to claim that last line there. If that's what you think for yourself, then great and I have problem with that; however, to make that claim for other people is a bit of a stretch.
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Saying that it is counter-intuitive to worship Satan is not equivalent to denying someone's right to worship him. I think it is the height of stupidity to be a liberal, but I certainly don't deny that people have the right to be liberal if they want.
More or less I agree with this - not so much with the liberal thing since I don't mind as much as other people do, but well said nonetheless.
Harrier thinks that practice of homosexuality is morally wrong - with which past experience has shown that you disagree.
By your relativistic way of looking at things - who are you to say that what these people may do to animals is wrong?
What is your standard to say that Harrier's moral viewpoints are wrong?
It's not relativistic.
It's the harm principle, boiled down.
No morality attaches to consensual sex between adults of any kind. They are morality-neutral, until such time as the sex causes harm, pain or suffering or is non-consensual. And I don't mean bondage.
I mean rape, sexual compulsiveness that begins to harm other areas of one's life, knowingly infecting someone with an STD.... that sort of thing. At that point, however, it is more person specific and act-specific based on harm caused. Not a blanket "homosexual sex is bad, mmmmkay?" Or, "orgies are immoral."
I am not your buddy..... and yeah, atheists definitely want to shove their lack of belief down everyones throat
Yes you are, buddy. And no, atheists (at least the level headed ones) do NOT want to shove their lack of belief down everyone's throat. Your exact same argument can be applied to theists and how they want to shove their beliefs down everyone's throat.
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If you didn't care, why did you go so far out of your way to announce your belief (or lack of)........
I never said I didn't care. What I said was that I couldn't careless. Huge difference between the two sayings so I suggest you learn what that is, buddy.
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