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Old 09-19-2013, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I just heard on NPR today that the house plans to shut down the government, unless the government agrees to basically kill ObamaCare. When is this belligerent stupidity going to stop? Sheesh, they are sounding more and more like the Taliban.

What is wrong with rational, centrist governance? When did conservatives decide to send in the goon squad instead of real leaders? It is just getting insane.

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Old 09-19-2013, 01:22 PM
 
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Conservatives have to use things like CR's and the debt ceiling to extract policy wins against Democrats because they can't win the argument at the ballot box.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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actually the house plans on passing the entire obama budget, except obamacare

they will but it to the democrats in the senate

either fund america and defund obamacare..or you guys are the ones who are shutting america down
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:31 PM
 
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actually the house plans on passing the entire obama budget, except obamacare

they will but it to the democrats in the senate

either fund america and defund obamacare..or you guys are the ones who are shutting america down
And then the Senate will strip out that language and send it right back.

The American people already decided this issue. The GOP thinks they know better and will pay the price later on.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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I just heard on NPR today that the house plans to shut down the government, unless the government agrees to basically kill ObamaCare. When is this belligerent stupidity going to stop? Sheesh, they are sounding more and more like to Taliban.

What is wrong with rational, centrist governance? When did conservatives decide to send in the goon squad instead of real leaders? It is just getting insane.
when the liberals decided to pass a bill without reading it
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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And then the Senate will strip out that language and send it right back.

The American people already decided this issue. The GOP thinks they know better and will pay the price later on.
This. I am tired of the Tea Party branch of the GOP pissing on everyone else's viewpoints. They fought ObamaCare, and LOST. Time to move on to more productive paths, like serving the country, not just their base.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:36 PM
 
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when the liberals decided to pass a bill without reading it
This idea CAME from the Republicans, after they blew a gasket over HillaryCare. Everyone knows they want to repeal ObamaCare to disgrace Obama, not for any rational, productive purpose.
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:37 PM
 
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And then the Senate will strip out that language and send it right back.

The American people already decided this issue. The GOP thinks they know better and will pay the price later on.
and the problem lies right there

we have a REPRESENTITIVE government

80% of americans dont want obamacare

when will the fascist liberals LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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I just heard on NPR today that the house plans to shut down the government, unless the government agrees to basically kill ObamaCare. When is this belligerent stupidity going to stop? Sheesh, they are sounding more and more like to Taliban.

What is wrong with rational, centrist governance? When did conservatives decide to send in the goon squad instead of real leaders? It is just getting insane.
Goon Squad? .. surely you jest .. It was the Goon Squad that said it had to be voted on before anyone could see what was in it ...
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Old 09-19-2013, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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This idea CAME from the Republicans, after they blew a gasket over HillaryCare. Everyone knows they want to repeal ObamaCare to disgrace Obama, not for any rational, productive purpose.
the democrats had to pass a bill in order to know what was in it. last poll I saw said 58% of Americans are against it
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