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Pass funding of the ACA the way it was passed. That means no special exemptions for congressional staffers and force them onto the federal exchange. Those staffers making more than 400% of poverty get no subsides.
Force the employer mandate.
What's Obama and the Dems going to do than? Veto their own bill?
I don't know why this is so hard to think about it. Force Obama and the Dems hands. They cannot go to the American public and reject their own bill they have been praising the past 3 plus years.
Surprised no one is also talking about forcing the employer mandate as well.
Either force the employer mandate if the individual mandate is being forced. Or leave them both out. It's not one or the order.
You can tie Obama and the Senate Democrats hands easy with this funding by adding this provision. Actually the republicans would be throwing the employer mandate right back at the Senate dems face and let them have their choice. Tell them they got funding for the ACA with both the employer mandate and individual mandate in place. That's the way the bill was written and passed by the Democrats.
What choice would the Dems have than? They have to pass their own bill to fund it. They can't just say...but but but employer mandate should be delayed. If employer mandate is delayed than individual mandate should be delayed as well.
Dems are in a catch 22 position. This is a much better way to bring about a government shutdown or a debt default. If their is a shutdown or default. Republicans have coverered their ground. They will simply tell the American public they passed funding for the ACA the way it was passed in 2010. They are trying to move the country forward with full funding of the law the way it was written.
Dems would have no choice but to go along with the employer mandate effective in 2014. This would cause complete havoc to employers. And let the finger pointing begin.
Pass funding of the ACA the way it was passed. That means no special exemptions for congressional staffers and force them onto the federal exchange. Those staffers making more than 400% of poverty get no subsides.
Force the employer mandate.
What's Obama and the Dems going to do than? Veto their own bill?
I don't know why this is so hard to think about it. Force Obama and the Dems hands. They cannot go to the American public and reject their own bill they have been praising the past 3 plus years.
Who would look like the idiot than?
Obama is already ignoring parts of the bill the Congress passed and he signed into law. He's delaying various mandates, exempting people the law says he can't exempt, etc.
What makes you think that passing more laws telling him he can't do it, will do any good?
Just as gun control laws can't control people (criminals) who don't obey the law, Obamacare laws won't control the Democrats if they want to ignore or change them.
I would love to see Obama and the Dems have to live with the consequences of this terrible law, but the problem is it won't be them getting hurt. At least not in the form of losing jobs, struggling to support their families, dealing with terrible health care. That will be regular, every day Americans. And once it starts, it will be terribly hard to unwind, and even more people will get hurt in that process.
It would be much better for people if this law was repealed now, before things really get painful.
You right-wingers are certainly going berserk over this, aren't you….
Keep it up. I guess I'd rather see you waste your time and energy on a futile attempt to repeal Obamacare than to actually do something that matters. lol
You right-wingers are certainly going berserk over this, aren't you….
Keep it up. I guess I'd rather see you waste your time and energy on a futile attempt to repeal Obamacare than to actually do something that matters. lol
First of all most of us republicans aren't "right wingers". I am a fiscal conservative.
I am not in favor of defunding the ACA. I want the law implemented the way it was passed. For the American people to see for themselves how wonderful the law is.
Why delay the employer mandate but refuse to delay the individual mandate? Ask your self why Obama gets to cherry pick what he wants? The law is law as Dems say. Right? The law says the individual and employer mandate takes effect 2014? Right?
Surprised no one is also talking about forcing the employer mandate as well.
Surprised you're not commenting on the absence of "special exemptions congressional staffers" now that you've been carefully shown that they don't exist.
Sorry, typo. That should have been "Not surprised". Because I am not.
Surprised you're not commenting on the absence of "special exemptions congressional staffers" now that you've been carefully shown that they don't exist.
Sorry, typo. That should have been "Not surprised". Because I am not.
Then why did Harry Reid say a few weeks ago that they were?
Ehm - he didn't. Well, not in that piece, anyway. This would be because there aren't any. And because HotAir is trying to deliberately mislead you, of course.
Congresspeople and their staff are being removed from their Federal health insurance plan and have to purchase insurance on the exchanges. Section 1312 of the ACA.
After reading this thread, I realized something. At least I am the only one noticing it is bass-ackwards to have the employer mandate pushed back but not the individual mandate. That is the worst attack on mainstreet since the stimulus. good luck trying to be the party for the people in 2014 and going forward Dems.
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good luck trying to be the party for the people in 2014 and going forward Dems.
