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Old 10-15-2013, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Here's what's even more unbelievable. One of the options that's being floated in the House right now is to pass their own plan, chock full of their own demands, and then adjourn and leave town so that no further negotiation is possible before we hit the debt ceiling.

This is what passes as "governing" in the GOP these days. At what point do we concede that one chamber of our Congress has been overtaken by hostile forces whose only aim is to take down the government?
Yes, they are not negociating the bipartisan Senate proposal, and instead double down on the bluff. It's a huge political fumble.

 
Old 10-15-2013, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Old 10-15-2013, 01:25 PM
 
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Obama and Reid can get anything funded to keep government open except Obamacare. Yet they refuse. This is on them. Conservatives and even some Dems are against Obamacare.

It is the Liberals in DC that are keeping everything shutdown. They have bills they refuse to sign that will start funding things. We Conservatives who vote Republican want them to stop Obamacare, and some are doing just what we voters wanted.
 
Old 10-15-2013, 01:32 PM
 
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Obama and Reid can get anything funded to keep government open except Obamacare. Yet they refuse. This is on them.
Give it up. You lost that fight before the shutdown even began, but you were too obtuse to see it. This is and ever will be known as the Great Tea Party Shutdown of 2013, just as the one in the '90s has always been known as the GOP shutdown. The longer the Tea Party hangs on, the more you bleed support. You're down below a quarter of the population that approves of this action right now. Are you guys aiming to see how low you can go?
 
Old 10-15-2013, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Obama and Reid can get anything funded to keep government open except Obamacare. Yet they refuse. This is on them. Conservatives and even some Dems are against Obamacare.

It is the Liberals in DC that are keeping everything shutdown. They have bills they refuse to sign that will start funding things. We Conservatives who vote Republican want them to stop Obamacare, and some are doing just what we voters wanted.

We Conservatives NO-

a minority of conservatives known as the Tea party, not all conservatives are behind this at all.
 
Old 10-15-2013, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Give it up. You lost that fight before the shutdown even began, but you were too obtuse to see it. This is and ever will be known as the Great Tea Party Shutdown of 2013, just as the one in the '90s has always been known as the GOP shutdown. The longer the Tea Party hangs on, the more you bleed support. You're down below a quarter of the population that approves of this action right now. Are you guys aiming to see how low you can go?
Tea party wants the government to default. The more turmoil in Washington, the better it is for the tea party. Their whole agenda and mission is dysfunction.
 
Old 10-15-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Give it up. You lost that fight before the shutdown even began, but you were too obtuse to see it. This is and ever will be known as the Great Tea Party Shutdown of 2013, just as the one in the '90s has always been known as the GOP shutdown. The longer the Tea Party hangs on, the more you bleed support. You're down below a quarter of the population that approves of this action right now. Are you guys aiming to see how low you can go?
Spare me. Most of the population doesn't have a clue that Reid and Obama are free to fund the government, minus Obamacare. Win or lose, at least I know the people in DC I support, have values and are doing what they were elected to do. Go down fighting for what you believe in, don't coward to the media bs and polls based off I'll informed morons.
 
Old 10-15-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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The Canadian Anarchist, along with the Koch brother cash has financed the unnecessary "fiscal cliff", the "sequester", the "shutdown" and the now the upcoming "debt ceiling crash" The pro anarchist mouthpieces, from Rush Limbaugh to Glenn Beck to Sarah Palin are falling all over each other to get in front of the cameras and feed the ignorant racist, gun toting, low information white rural voter with hate, fear and more ignorance. They are jumping on the bandwagon to shut this country down and send us into another civil war. They and they alone will be responsible for the death of the United States of America? They MUST be stopped. The mad hatters tea party is a cover, for the the complete breakdown of our country. There are those that are bordering on treason, and they don't hand out with anyone over here on the left!
 
Old 10-15-2013, 02:31 PM
 
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The Canadian Anarchist, along with the Koch brother cash has financed the unnecessary "fiscal cliff", the "sequester", the "shutdown" and the now the upcoming "debt ceiling crash" The pro anarchist mouthpieces, from Rush Limbaugh to Glenn Beck to Sarah Palin are falling all over each other to get in front of the cameras and feed the ignorant racist, gun toting, low information white rural voter with hate, fear and more ignorance. They are jumping on the bandwagon to shut this country down and send us into another civil war. They and they alone will be responsible for the death of the United States of America? They MUST be stopped. The mad hatters tea party is a cover, for the the complete breakdown of our country. There are those that are bordering on treason, and they don't hand out with anyone over here on the left!
ALL because they hate having a black President.
 
Old 10-15-2013, 02:35 PM
 
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Spare me. Most of the population doesn't have a clue that Reid and Obama are free to fund the government, minus Obamacare. Win or lose, at least I know the people in DC I support, have values and are doing what they were elected to do. Go down fighting for what you believe in, don't coward to the media bs and polls based off I'll informed morons.
Wrong. They do know. 74% of the population does not approve of the GOP's tactics of shutting down the government over the ACA. You believing they don't know what is going on is just wishful thinking on your part.

And you sure seem willing to make certain the entire country "goes down" if you don't get what YOU want, but the rest of us kind of like this country and would like to keep it.
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