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Not the recipients of our tax dollars.....people who take far more than they offer.
That's why only tax payers should be allowed to vote.
That might not work out that well as a lot of seniors don't pay taxes. That's been the only group that has voted reliably Republican in the past 12 years.
Do you ever post anything besides "Falsehood!" "Lies!" "Dishonest!" ?
If you're going to accuse people of lying, the onus is on you to prove it, not just run your mouth.
That's how debate works.
Why do uneducated people continue to compare the U.S., a capitalist country that relies heavily on consumerism, to other countries? Taxes often go up faster than inflation, particularly property taxes.
because when you are paying 10-20% to the federal income tax
and are paying 2% to the feds for SS/medi
and you are paying 8% to the state income tax
and you are paying 20% to the local property tax
and you are paying 10% sales tax
and you are paying all the excise/sin taxes(to include a 18 cents federal and 46 cents state PER GALLON of fuel)
yes currently, I can write off the local property tax to the feds and cut the fed income tax down to zero, but I am still getting killed everytime I turn around with this tax, and that governmental fee
yes we are paying too much, when more than 50% of someones income goes to taxes...there is a problem
because when you are paying 10-20% to the federal income tax
and are paying 2% to the feds for SS/medi
and you are paying 8% to the state income tax
and you are paying 20% to the local property tax
and you are paying 10% sales tax
and you are paying all the excise/sin taxes(to include a 18 cents federal and 46 cents state PER GALLON of fuel)
no I can write off the local property tax to the feds and cut the fed income tax down to zero, but I am still getting killed everytime I turn around with this tax, that governmental fee
yes we are paying too much, when more than 50% of someones income goes to taxes...there is a problem
But you pay high taxes because you reside in NY, some of the best schools in the country are in NY. NY is still a low tax jurisdiction when you compare to London, Paris, Brussels, Frankfurt.
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I'm not sure what the topic of this thread is then other than you feel we should raise tax rates simply becsue someone else is paying higher taxes? That's not an argument as to whether taxes are too much or too little.
The point of the thread is to gain an insight as to why people think we pay too much in taxes when our tax rates are pretty low... Not that I think we should pay more or less.
The point of the thread is to gain an insight as to why people think we pay too much in taxes when our tax rates are pretty low... Not that I think we should pay more or less.
And my point is comparing them to other countries to make your argument is not a good one. As I originally said you're trying to justify buying a Cadillac you can't afford becsue the the guy down the street bought a Mercedes.
You need to justify the need for a Cadillac and it's affordability, what the guy down the street bought is irrelevant.
The point of the thread is to gain an insight as to why people think we pay too much in taxes when our tax rates are pretty low... Not that I think we should pay more or less.
Taxpayers do not feel like they're getting value for their dollar. On the federal level and for many on the local level.
We still have 45,000 troops in Germany and another 11,000 in Italy and 9,000 in Britain. Has anybody been to Europe lately?? They can stand on their own two feet. If you are a Republican and you like this than I would suggest you pay for it by raising taxes.
We have treaties in place that obligate our troops to be there, so we would need to find a way to break that treaty. That may be tough to do, since those countries can reduce the size of their military as long as US forces are their.
Just look at Canada, they refused to help pay for a missile shield to protect North America, because they know we would protect mainland USA and Alaska. They know their country's southern and northern borders are protected by the USA, so they can get away with a military smaller in size, because the USA has their back.
Go ahead and pay more taxes; that option is certainly available to you. I wonder why no liberal ever takes advantage of this opportunity to "put their money where their mouth is" and actually pay more taxes voluntarily.
I already pay over 50% of my income in taxes- I pay enough already.
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