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Old 10-11-2013, 04:41 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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The Obamacare fanatics have yet to answer the question they used to ask conservatives:

"How will the families that have to suddenly come up with thousands of dollars extra for Obamacare, pay for it? What parts of their family budget is government forcing them to cut, to pay the increased costs of Obamacare mandated by the administration?"

For more and more people, it's not just an academic exercise. They've been stretching their budgets to keep everything covered: Paying the rent, buying food, keeping the lights on, buying clothes for their kids, etc. Now, suddenly, they find they have to pay thousands more, often for less health coverage than they used to have. Which of those other things must they cut, to get the money that government has MANDATED they pay?

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Tragic: Young Mother Forced to Choose Between Obamacare Premiums and Feeding Family - Guy Benson

Tragic: Young Mother Forced to Choose Between Obamacare Premiums and Feeding Family

Guy Benson | Oct 11, 2013

The Obama administration will rely on emotional anecdotes and incomplete data to help defend their signature law -- once its websites are fixed and people can actually enroll, that is. Critics will counter with reams of statistics proving that Obamacare violates its core promises. While empirical evidence is indispensable, it's also critical to showcase real people who are being actively harmed by the law. Meet this young, disabled mother from Allentown, Pennsylvania:


WFMZ-PA: ObamaCare Forces A Mother To Choose Between Insurance Or Putting Food On Table - YouTube

"It would take food out of our mouths to be able to afford these coverages."
Heartbreaking. Obamacare will force this woman, her husband and their five-year-old son to choose between obtaining coverage and putting food on the table. The law's "affordable" premiums will hike the family's bills by hundreds of dollars compared to their current plan. They can't afford the change, so a desperate decision awaits.

This is why so many Americans have forcefully opposed Obamacare for so long. It's not about "hating" the president. It's not about racial animus. It's not about protecting the rich. It has nothing to do with any of the red herrings proponents toss out to sully and impugn opponents' motives. The truth is that this law hurts people, breaks virtually all of the major promises upon which it was sold, and is simply unaffordable to a federal government that's already facing a long-term debt crisis.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Who is paying for her family's medical care now?

Is her state one of the ones that did not expand Medicaid to more low income families?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:48 PM
 
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Who is paying for her family's medical care now?

Is her state one of the ones that did not expand Medicaid to more low income families?
WFMZ is based in Allentown, PA. So, yes, she lives in the same state I do, with a tea party fanatic of a governor named Tom Corbett who refused to expand Medicaid and still refuses to do so
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:51 PM
 
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WFMZ is based in Allentown, PA. So, yes, she lives in the same state I do, with a tea party fanatic of a governor named Tom Corbett who refused to expand Medicaid and still refuses to do so
I was just reading about that, so sad and tragic and needless.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:52 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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WFMZ is based in Allentown, PA. So, yes, she lives in the same state I do, with a tea party fanatic of a governor named Tom Corbett who refused to expand Medicaid and still refuses to do so
So she's paying her current medical insurances premiums herself???

She's one of the ones Obamacare is designed to screw.

In the great robbing-Peter-to-pay-Paul game the liberals pay, she's a "Peter".

My sympathies.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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She quoted the premium but from her description she is entitled to a very large Tax Credit. You need to know where she netted not the gross charge.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:57 PM
 
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I was just reading about that, so sad and tragic and needless.
The woman who talked; her family is disabled, living on a "fixed income" so I'm assuming not much, and has a child. If they lived in NJ or MD, they would have been eligible for Medicaid. Not here with the teabagger occupying the governor's mansion in Harrisburg. Yet the big guns, small brains crowd blames it on the ACA. Wrong, blame it on the governors who refuse to cover the people that make too much money for Medicaid's old income guidelines and for those whose jobs don't cover them and don't pay enough. They are the people who fell through the cracks of the ACA, but not solely because of the law. The blame is being conveniently placed on the ACA, when, coincidentally, this "loophole" seems to only be happening in states with a teabagger governor
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:59 PM
 
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So she's paying her current medical insurances premiums herself???

She's one of the ones Obamacare is designed to screw.

In the great robbing-Peter-to-pay-Paul game the liberals pay, she's a "Peter".

My sympathies.
No. She happens to live in a state that's run by a political ideologue. Funny, people in her situation all seem to live in a state run by a tea party governor care to explain that?
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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She quoted the premium but from her description she is entitled to a very large Tax Credit. You need to know where she netted not the gross charge.
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If they lived in NJ or MD, they would have been eligible for Medicaid.
Notice that the liberals' solution, in every case, is that the government (which is already broke and $trillions in debt) must spend even more money?

What's wrong with this picture?

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Not here with the teabagger occupying the governor's mansion in Harrisburg.
The leftists inevitably exhibit their own homophobic tendencies with slurs like this when stressed. My sympathies.

Back to the subject:
The woman got the numbers she is quoting, from her Obamacare website, which already adds in any subsidies (remember that a subsidy means someone else is paying his own full coverage, PLUS a good part of hers).

Even with those, she is still facing a huge increase in money she must pay.

So, liberals, what parts of her family budget must she cut, to pay the additional money you guys are demanding for Obamacare?
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Well the best you can come up with its the tea partys fault. Seems to be replacing its Bushes fault.
But you liberal whackos will never put any of the fault in its a bad law, bad healthcare , just blame the tea party. The problem is the more we find out about it the worse it is getting. That is what happens when we have to pass a bill to know what was in it.
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