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Old 10-14-2013, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Lets play a game chucky YOU answer the question posed. Can you? lol I bet not.
I have been holding back, just to see what you AGW yoyos have to say.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:27 PM
 
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You have a funny way of getting people to think about it. How cold a winter is has absolutely nothing to do with the politicized "global warming" debate. Until we fully understand the role of the sun's effects upon out weather, we're just guessing. And, we're nowhere near understanding that relationship. Global warming has more to do with celestial orbital mechanics than anything us puny men can do.
The sun is not the only culprit.

What do you think about the fact that Venus has no difference in night and day surface temp?

Or the fact that the coldest temperatures in the solar system are found in the moon, due to the fact that light doesn't reach those spots?

Or even the fact that when the lake freezes over, lake effect snow stops?
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:32 PM
 
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actually, one of my professors thought that global warming could accelerate us to the ice age, once the poles start accumulating snow in the winter.
You might enjoy Not By Fire But By Ice

We are entering an ice age, my friend.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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You might enjoy Not By Fire But By Ice

We are entering an ice age, my friend.
One of the paradoxes brought by global warming is that for glaciers, you need snow, and for heavy snowfall, you need moisture that comes from a warm ocean.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:49 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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It appears the "kid" thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. lol
The "kid" is a double physics and math major.
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:52 PM
 
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One of the paradoxes brought by global warming is that for glaciers, you need snow, and for heavy snowfall, you need moisture that comes from a warm ocean.
And that is EXACTLY what we are seeing.

The oceans are warming NOT because of human produced CO2, but because of undersea volcanic activity, which is the cause of the warming. Warmer oceans result in more evaporation, more water vapor in the atmosphere, which leads to more precipitation. More rain. More snow. Depending.

The recently announced 50% increase in the arctic ice pack from over a year ago is indicative. Things can and DO change very quickly. We could be in another ice age in a very few years, just as what happened during the Little Ice Age, as the European chroniclers noted.

As you and I have seen in this thread, Kid, the AGW folk dont know JACK about climate change!
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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And, do you know that our current climate is not the normal condition of the earth. It's highly abnormal. The usual condition of the earth is for it to be in an ice age. The time between glacial periods are referred to as interglacials and usually last about 10,000-12,000 years before the onset of the next glacial. Guess where we are now? Yup, we're in a period called the Holocene and at the end of the current interglacial, (if the average timing holds). If anything, the current "global warming" just might delay us going into the next ice age.
That is so, like, Cenozoic, dude!
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:59 PM
 
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That is so, like, Cenozoic, dude!
Do you notice that on this chart once the temperature reaches a peak, it falls?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...t_data.svg.png
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:02 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Do you notice that on this chart once the temperature reaches a peak, it falls?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...t_data.svg.png
Who was manning the measuring equipment 350,000 years a go?
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Old 10-15-2013, 06:19 AM
 
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I have been holding back, just to see what you AGW yoyos have to say.
What does this mean? The OP seems to be using it to say Anti-Global Warming. For years it was recognized as Anthropogenic Global Warming.

Who and what are we discussing here?

Are we discussing science or theory? The science behind winter is not the same as a theory about what might happen in the future.

Here we are at the next day and it seems there is still no reason for this thread.
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