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View Poll Results: Access to health care is...
A necessity 143 87.73%
A privilege 20 12.27%
Voters: 163. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-18-2013, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The Cascade Foothills
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I could live to be 150 years old and I would still be shocked and dismayed over the lack of compassion and empathy some people exhibit towards others less fortunate than themselves.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Calgary, AB
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You pay for your healthcare through taxes. In America we don't call something we have to pay for a right.
Who pays for the legal system in which you have a right to representation? You have the right to go before a judge and argue your case? Who pays the judge?
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:02 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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Do you also resent your tax dollars being spent on roads you'll never drive on?
But I do have the option of driving on any road. Someone else getting healthcare on my dime doesn't allow me to derive any benefit or use of the procedure.

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other people's children to be educated?
Actually I do have a big problem with that. I'm sending my child to a private school because the public schools are snakepits run largely by incompetents. Yet my taxes still support them.

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fire departments even though you've never had a fire? Etc?
And I pay taxes which support those fire departments which will respond in case I do need them.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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You pay for your healthcare through taxes. In America we don't call something we have to pay for a right.
Nothing is free in this world except the air you breath, don't you know that?
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:04 PM
 
Location: No Mask For Me This Time, Either
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I could live to be 150 years old and I would still be shocked and dismayed over the lack of compassion and empathy some people exhibit towards others less fortunate than themselves.
Meh.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Meh.
So you are an admitted troll, "just here to stir the pot"...Meh.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Chesapeake Bay
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And I pay taxes which support those fire departments which will respond in case I do need them.
You and everyone else does.

Doesn't it just gall you to no end knowing that you are paying for someone elses possible use of your taxes to put out their fire? By George, if you are an all American patriot, it should.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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So you're cool with paying for others? From
each according to his ability and to each accord to his need? I wonder how that
model will work out in the long term, using OPM and such...
Of course! I'm cool with paying for others' health care. I'm also cool with my taxes subsidizing higher education, even though I no longer go to school. I'm cool with affordable daycare, even though I never had to use it. I'm cool with extended maternity leave, even though I can no longer have kids. These things create a stable, healthy, happy populace, and that leads to a strong, productive society.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:12 PM
 
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Drug-resistant tuberculosis is a growing problem in the USA, in part because people can't afford the continued services of doctors to treat their illness. Tuberculosis requires several visits and consistent taking of the proper medications adjusted for the individual. It is not something that can be treated in a visit to an ER. Do you really think those germs aren't going to be passed to other people, including *yourself*?

And that's just one example of why we should have affordable healthcare for everyone. A basic level of service -- if you want more, so for it -- but no one should be left to work sick and infect others because they cannot come up with funds.

Unless you plan to stop breathing 'used' air, you should be in favor of ACA.
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Old 10-18-2013, 08:13 PM
 
Location: E ND & NW MN
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Do you also resent your tax dollars being spent on roads you'll never drive on? other people's children to be educated? fire departments even though you've never had a fire? Etc?
Yes exactly.... to me it is called being a society. I believe in paying taxes for the good of the overall community or country. I have no problem paying higher taxes if that means better healthcare for those less fortunate....just because I can afford it and they can't doesnt mean they should suffer IMO. I gladly pay for roads, fire, schools, etc as our whole community I live in uses them. I like to look at us as one big society instead of individuals. My family makes enough income to be in that too rich to get much tax breaks but too poor to be considered wealthy, In that 80-120k range. But I have no issues paying taxes if it goes toward the good of society as a whole.
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