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Old 10-27-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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A college degree is a radically different requirement than joining a club, isn't it? Being forced to join a union, and paying dues, is being forced to accept their business practices, many of which you might not agree with. Maybe you think it is OK to be passed over for a promotion because you are too young. The guy with more seniority, who drinks on the job, instead gets the job you should have.

That's an example of why free market fans dislike many unions.
Iceland is about 85% unionized yet also very free market and low corporate taxes and they have done well and are able to fund their welfare state.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:41 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Unions were created to force businesses, to their demands.

What happened is, legislators caught on to the yells from the workers that wanted to create a union and passes laws that they knew their constituents fully supported concerning labor.

Now all the laws are in place for worker rights and safety, through government legislation and laws.

We no longer need unions. They just bully businesses to demands that stockholders never accept.
Unions have bankrupted many industries in the nation.
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Old 10-27-2013, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Why do free market fans hate unions so much?
Some people just hate stuff. I am a free market fan, but I don't hate unions. I just don't' join them.
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Old 10-27-2013, 04:08 PM
 
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extortion, assault and battery, vandalism, threats of violence, and ties to organized crime.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Um, if you want a career that actually pays enough to raise a family (and there can only be so many plumbers and electricians) you are indeed, "forced" to obtain an expensive college education.
Obtaining an education is something you do voluntarily in order to participate in a field of work. Joining a union is something that you are forced to do in order to obtain or keep a job. Try again.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:30 PM
 
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Why shouldn't workers have the right to band together and protect their interests? How does that violate any principle of economic freedom?
Employees are free to do whatever they want. The issue is that government is involved, creating artificial monopolies of labor, and monopolies are ALWAYS destructive.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Because the only thing that matters in the free market is profit.

Employee health and well-being is not their concern.
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Old 10-27-2013, 05:45 PM
 
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Now all the laws are in place for worker rights and safety, through government legislation and laws.
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Which will be stripped away as well as libertarian ideas become more widespread and their believers more powerful.
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:01 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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So? You're "forced" to do a lot in things in order to get and hold a job. I can think of a lot worse things a corp could force you to do than join a union.
Geeeeze. Are some people really this stupid?
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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so you are for rewarding the worthless parasites? giving lifetime burger flippers a good salary and benefits? I'd quit my job if burger flippers got their wishes.
So, being gainfully employed and doing an honest day's work equals "worthless parasites" in your eyes.
Very nice.
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