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Old 11-01-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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I will ignore your naive comments on gun ownership, however parents are NOT being parents anymore.
I was telling about my experience with guns growing up. How is that being naive? And every generation criticizes parents and their children because they think they know better. But you don't know better.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:51 PM
 
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I wouldn't doubt it. But I simply don't trust pharmaceuticals for anything beyond acute care issues, like painkillers after an accident or something similar. They're giving things like Prozac to people who likely don't need them. My doctor gave me that type of drug back in the 90s and let's just say it didn't work out. I ended up discovering that my problem was a vitamin D subclinical deficiency. Vitamin D fixed it.
Based on several reports I've read, these SSRIs can really alter a person's way of thinking (and that's why suicidal thoughts is listed as one of the possible side effects).
Too many people rely on prescription drugs.
All I can say for sure is that I've really noticed that people in general are crazier now than they were when the calendar was still 1999. People fly off the handle for no reason and many cannot seem to think clearly enough to maintain an intelligent conversation. All you get from them is pop culture cliches and no substance beneath that. There's definitely been a change.
That's called dumbing down.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:52 PM
 
Location: california
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In a perfect world All men would be armed equally.
there would be no weak to take advantage of.
To bad the government does not look at al men as equal.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That's called dumbing down.
Thanks for the clarification on that.
You think drugs could not possibly be responsible?
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I wouldn't doubt it. But I simply don't trust pharmaceuticals for anything beyond acute care issues, like painkillers after an accident or something similar. They're giving things like Prozac to people who likely don't need them. My doctor gave me that type of drug back in the 90s and let's just say it didn't work out. I ended up discovering that my problem was a vitamin D subclinical deficiency. Vitamin D fixed it.
Based on several reports I've read, these SSRIs can really alter a person's way of thinking (and that's why suicidal thoughts is listed as one of the possible side effects).
Too many people rely on prescription drugs.
All I can say for sure is that I've really noticed that people in general are crazier now than they were when the calendar was still 1999. People fly off the handle for no reason and many cannot seem to think clearly enough to maintain an intelligent conversation. All you get from them is pop culture cliches and no substance beneath that. There's definitely been a change.
Yes and to add to that, it is now more socially acceptable to be crazy then it was back then too.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That's what I think too. These mass shootings have gotten worse over the last few decades because we've gutted our mental health care (Thanks Regan!) and allow the deeply disturbed to not only walk around in society, but we allow them to medicate themselves. The vast majority of mass shooting all have the same back-stories, most involving mistreated, untreated or undiagnosed mental issues.

It's simply easier to blame guns than to rebuild our mental health care system.

If you require powerful anti-psychotic drugs or are diagnosed with severe mental problems, you should be placed in a home where you can be cared for 24/7.
Get a load of the drug Lyrica. It's one of these SSRIs and now they're saying it can be used for fibromyalgia. Then again, I guess Pfizer needs to recoup some of the $2.3 billion settlement they reached with the FDA for misbranding.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Lost in Texas
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I was telling about my experience with guns growing up. How is that being naive? And every generation criticizes parents and their children because they think they know better. But you don't know better.
I raised 4 productive college graduates that are an asset to society. I would say I got something right. I DO KNOW BETTER... (Incidentally my grandkids are being raised as I raised my children and they are turning out well too.)
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Yes and to add to that, it is now more socially acceptable to be crazy then it was back then too.
That's true. I think that's where mass media (especially TV) comes into play. They make it seem like the norm is to be crazy.
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Old 11-01-2013, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I will ignore your naive comments on gun ownership, however parents are NOT being parents anymore.
Yes, and also some schools had "gun clubs" (I think that is the correct term). In which students who belonged to the club would meet after school on school grounds and they *had guns*! Yet, they didn't go around shooting other people.

My answer to the question in this thread would be the decay of society.
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Old 11-01-2013, 11:02 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Yes, and also some schools had "gun clubs" (I think that is the correct term). In which students who belonged to the club would meet after school on school grounds and they *had guns*! Yet, they didn't go around shooting other people.

My answer to the question in this thread would be the decay of society.
I would say the same, except I would add to that.... the decay of society through Liberalism......
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