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Old 11-04-2013, 03:47 PM
 
Location: California
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In antiquity, when a nation went to war, the winners didn't spend droves of money rebuilding the countries they conquered. They pillaged, plundered and moved on. However there is a modern welfare mentality that the winners must spend billions to rebuild the country of their adversary, and conservatives are all for it. An enormous amount of money, money that will come out of our paychecks, is going into Iraqi and Afghanistan hospitals, schools, health care, infrastructure, etc. and I have yet to hear a conservative complain about it, they actually defend it! Yet they would rather eat glass than give a dollar towards better health care and education for America's poor? Why are conservatives so empathetic to people in war torn countries, but not the impoverished people of their own country?

As Colonel Bagley says to Captain Algren in the movie The Last Samurai because he favored his Japanese enemies over his American colleagues, "What is it about your own people that you hate so much?"
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Ha. I literally came here to make the exact same thread topic. It's amazing how much Conservative hate "wealth redistribution" but love the biggest "wealth redistribution" program on Earth -- America's military.

How else would you describe taking hard-earned American dollars and sending it overseas to a bunch of "takers." That's the problem w/ politics today... there's no one breaking down the talking points to core elements. Welfare is bad when it feeds a hungry family, but great when it pads the bottom line of oil companies and the war machine overseas.

I don't expect to hear from any Conservatives here on this b/c it's going to be the same lip service. "I hate spending $ on the MIC, but let's start dealing w/ it by taking $ from hungry kids, and old people living on SS, and infrastructure repairs, and gov't workers, etc."
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:44 PM
 
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Military spending is constitutional, welfare, education, health, infrastructure is not.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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How many liberals voted against funding all or any of our wars ? I think you'll find that since WWI, most of the Congress's have been Democratic. And correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the re-building of Europe after WWII a Roosevelt/Truman idea?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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Military spending is constitutional, welfare, education, health, infrastructure is not.
Take it up w/ the Supreme Court then. They've had decades to upend all of it and haven't ruled that any of that spending is unconstitutional. Or are you one of those Conservatives that only accepts the parts of the Constitution that you like?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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But conservatives give money to their own people. Halliburton, Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics etc. etc. make out like bandits when there's a war on. Hell, Raytheon stock skyrocketed (sorry) when the saber rattling regarding Syria peaked.

Oh - wait. You thought conservatives considered the rank-and-file American citizens "their own people"? Not any more. That went out right around Eisenhower's days.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:52 PM
 
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In antiquity, when a nation went to war, the winners didn't spend droves of money rebuilding the countries they conquered. They pillaged, plundered and moved on. However there is a modern welfare mentality that the winners must spend billions to rebuild the country of their adversary, and conservatives are all for it. An enormous amount of money, money that will come out of our paychecks, is going into Iraqi and Afghanistan hospitals, schools, health care, infrastructure, etc. and I have yet to hear a conservative complain about it, they actually defend it! Yet they would rather eat glass than give a dollar towards better health care and education for America's poor? Why are conservatives so empathetic to people in war torn countries, but not the impoverished people of their own country?

As Colonel Bagley says to Captain Algren in the movie The Last Samurai because he favored his Japanese enemies over his American colleagues, "What is it about your own people that you hate so much?"
In antiquity, when a nation went to war, the winners didn't spend droves of money rebuilding the countries they conquered. They pillaged, plundered and moved on. However there is a modern welfare mentality that the winners must spend billions to rebuild the country of their adversary, and Obama and his liberals are all for it. An enormous amount of money, money that will come out of our paychecks, is going into Iraqi and Afghanistan hospitals, schools, health care, infrastructure, etc. and I have yet to hear a liberal complain about it, they actually defend it! Yet they would rather eat glass than give a dollar towards better health care and education for America's poor? Why are Obama and his liberals so empathetic to people in war torn countries, but not the impoverished people of their own country?
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:53 PM
 
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But conservatives give money to their own people. Halliburton, Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics etc. etc. make out like bandits when there's a war on. Hell, Raytheon stock skyrocketed (sorry) when the saber rattling regarding Syria peaked.

Oh - wait. You thought conservatives considered the rank-and-file American citizens "their own people"? Not any more. That went out right around Eisenhower's days.
But Obama and his liberals give money to their own people. Halliburton, Lockheed, Raytheon, General Dynamics etc. etc. make out like bandits when there's a war on. Hell, Raytheon stock skyrocketed (sorry) when the saber rattling regarding Syria peaked.
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Ha. I literally came here to make the exact same thread topic. It's amazing how much Conservative hate "wealth redistribution" but love the biggest "wealth redistribution" program on Earth -- America's military.

How else would you describe taking hard-earned American dollars and sending it overseas to a bunch of "takers." That's the problem w/ politics today... there's no one breaking down the talking points to core elements. Welfare is bad when it feeds a hungry family, but great when it pads the bottom line of oil companies and the war machine overseas.

I don't expect to hear from any Conservatives here on this b/c it's going to be the same lip service. "I hate spending $ on the MIC, but let's start dealing w/ it by taking $ from hungry kids, and old people living on SS, and infrastructure repairs, and gov't workers, etc."
And I don't expect to hear from any Obama lemmings here on this b/c it's going to be the same lip service. "I hate spending $ on the MIC, but let's start dealing w/ it by taking $ from hungry kids, and old people living on SS, and infrastructure repairs, and gov't workers, etc."
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Old 11-04-2013, 04:55 PM
 
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Geeze OP, you sound like you think you have an entitled to other peoples money. How lame you can't take care of yourself. Why should we have to give the money we earn to you? Because you can fog up a mirror?

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