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Hillary Clinton (#1 contender for the Dem nomination)
August 21, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton told a veterans group yesterday that President Bush's troop surge is working -- but that it is still time to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq.
"It's working. We're just years too late in our tactics," she said, referring to the beefed-up U.S. troop presence battling insurgents in Iraq, including war-torn Anbar province. IRAQ SURGE WORKING, BUT TOO LATE: HILLARY CLINTON | By GEOFF EARLE | National News | US News | Current National News
Carl Levin (#1 man on the Defense committee)
Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Carl Levin says he saw “credible and positive results from the surge of troops in Iraq ordered by President George W. Bush but remains skeptical about whether military successes will lead to political resolutions in that war-torn country.
Levin: Troop surge has 'positive results' in Iraq (http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070820/NEWS07/70820030 - broken link)
And you know what all 3 of these have in common? They all said the surge would not work.
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the Iraqis must show will.
The surge will only work if all different factions of Iraqis over there can actually agree to from a real government. Which I personally doubt.
As for the our military quelling violence. Ya know my father is a fighting vet from Vietnam also a marine. He did his 13 months there back in 66 - 67. He basically see it like this. OK we come in to some town we kill some Iraqis or Al Qaeda, we take over a town or city everything quite for awhile, we leave and/or leave Iraqi military (that is suspect at best). The Enemy comes back, takes over and entrenches again. We repeat ourselves by going in the same town killing Iraqis and occupying the town again. And repeat repeat repeat.
Or perhaps another scenario we slap around the enemy and chase them to the Iranian or Syrian boarder, we stop at the boarder declare victory, leave, Then the enemy cross either boarder a at a different place, retrenches again. and repeat repeat repeat.
Sound familiar to Vietnam. in the first scenario my father actually was part of a similar event. My father had to take a hill, the same hill, three times. Because the veit min would take the hill, our military would decide that is was strategically important. Send our boys up to take we get some of our guys killed and a lot of the enemies. We would take the hill declare victory and about two weeks later We abandon the hill. The viet min would come back reoccupy the hill. We again would decide that the hill was important and repeat repeat repeat. With the second scenario that happen through the whole war with the viet min crossing over to Cambodia.
I'm afraid to say in the long term this surge will fail unless the Iraqi government actually work out.
Yeah but... What about.....But.....Bush...
Where are the "wow, that's great news" responses from the left?
I'm not from the left, so this probably doesn't count, but...
This is wonderful news. I am very proud of the job America's finest are doing, and I hope they are too. The victories won by American forces in the past two months are truly remarkable and unprecedented in modern warfare. Also, nearly 150,000 Iraqi troops are trained and are playing a major role in the security of their own nation. By the end of the year, we expect more than 1/2 of the country to be controlled strictly by Iraqi forces. This is real progress, and we should all applaud the job our brave men and women have done.
Especially after all the doctors and nurses have already fled the country, along with all the other professionals. Good point!
They must have just fled long enough for us to finish building the hospitals we've built.
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the Iraqis must show will.
