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Partly agree with the OP.
it started in the 60s when there were far less graduates, recommending it as a social equalizer. Why are minorities poor? Because very few attend college. To prove their point they brought statistics: a person with college degree is likely to earn more then one without. That of course is total BS since they don't consider how much an unemployed college degree makes compared to an employed high schooler.
The economy also turned around in the last decades. Demand for everyone also dropped significantly. Today the best choice for lots of folks is learning a trade. A crane operator, or a specialized builder makes more then some BAs.
Partly agree with the OP.
it started in the 60s when there were far less graduates, recommending it as a social equalizer. Why are minorities poor? Because very few attend college. To prove their point they brought statistics: a person with college degree is likely to earn more then one without. That of course is total BS since they don't consider how much an unemployed college degree makes compared to an employed high schooler.
The economy also turned around in the last decades. Demand for everyone also dropped significantly. Today the best choice for lots of folks is learning a trade. A crane operator, or a specialized builder makes more then some BAs.
It does not take a college degree to open a business.
but not because the business owner lacked education, but rather lacked customers, and/or real world management skills. even college grads often times fail the first time they open a business, but dont have the real world management skills. so lets look at some of the failures that didnt have a college degree, shall we? how about;
bill gates
dave thomas
henry ford
the chevrolet brothers
the dodge brothers
ray croc
the mcdonalds brothers
rush limbaugh
sean hannity
to name a few failures in life because they didnt have a college degree.
I think there is an overemphasis on "college". Not everyone is cut out for "college", but there is a need for people to be educated.
I think the real disconnect takes place as kids approach their junior/senior year in high school. Guidance counselors are not necessarily equipped (nor have sufficient bandwidth) to "guide" kids, and parents often don't know how to guide their kids sometimes. What if what you're good at doesn't require a 4-year degree? Could you obtain the necessary skills with a 2 year degree? A trade school?
College costs in general are laughable. I have a good friend whose daughter attends Tulane. It's $56,000 a year for everything. In 4 years, he will have spent the same amount he spent buying his 2800 sq. ft. home 8 years ago just so his daughter is .......educated? Then what??
The percentage of a graduating class attending a 4 year university matters in terms of how the school is perceived by the general public.
Disagree.
1) College is much more affordable and accessible in other 1st world countries.
2) dumbing down America and having a bigger high-school-diploma-only population is a bad idea when less skilled jobs can be shipped overseas. We'll wind up with a Walmart employee population with no hope or skills to do better.
3) when the economy turns around we'll need these college degree skills
4) this sounds like another right wing attack that mocks higher education
It all depends.
University education in substantially or even entirely subsidized in many first world nations. It's paid for by taxes.
Conversely, there is a quasi Libertarian /GOP trend in the U.S. that advocates for giving parents 100% responsibility for educating their children, or not.
As long as high schools are failing to teach students, I see colleges as being necessary. Today's colleges and universities are forced to teach remedial reading, grammar, and mathematics just to bring their first-year students up to high school level, before they begin to comprehend college level courses.
A high school diploma and at least two years of college today is equivalent to a GED back in the 1960s.
Community colleges offered remedial reading and math since inception, serious decades ago. Highly selective schools do not.
Education is never free. We just do not charge children for their education.
It also means that college professors are reduced to teaching rudimentary reading, grammar, and mathematics. Ever wonder why a college education cost so much these days?
This is true in community colleges that are required to accept everyone. Those in need of remedial help are required to bring their skills up to snuff before taking other classes.
One does not find remedial support in highly selective institutions. Remedial support is not the same thing as supporting those with defined learning differences.
but not because the business owner lacked education, but rather lacked customers, and/or real world management skills. even college grads often times fail the first time they open a business, but dont have the real world management skills. so lets look at some of the failures that didnt have a college degree, shall we? how about;
bill gates
dave thomas
henry ford
the chevrolet brothers
the dodge brothers
ray croc
the mcdonalds brothers
rush limbaugh
sean hannity
to name a few failures in life because they didnt have a college degree.
I'm not sure who the McDonald's brothers are. The rest of them, with the exception of Bill Gates, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity are from previous eras where most people did not have college education, in fact, a lot did not even have a high school education. Even those three are Baby Boomers. Entertainment, which is Limbaugh and Hannity's field, is one possible exception to the need for an education.
but not because the business owner lacked education, but rather lacked customers, and/or real world management skills. even college grads often times fail the first time they open a business, but dont have the real world management skills. so lets look at some of the failures that didnt have a college degree, shall we? how about;
bill gates
dave thomas
henry ford
the chevrolet brothers
the dodge brothers
ray croc
the mcdonalds brothers
rush limbaugh
sean hannity
to name a few failures in life because they didnt have a college degree.
None are recent. Limbaugh and Hannity became successful by pandering to segments of a conservative audience. It's entertainment. In contrast, O'Reilly has a Masters degree from Harvard.
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