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Link, please? The slaves were lovingly fed smoked salmon, were brushed daily, slept on their owner's beds and got massages?
Really? Word for word?
I think you got "whipped" and "massaged" mixed up. One of these things is not like the other.
Nothing written there is "word for word" compared to what I said. Nothing.
You've shown the CD community that you have sociopathic tendencies, and now you're building not just straw men, but entire villages.
Fact is, most pets are treated like family members and you know it.
Backtracking isn't going to help you now.
Nothing written there is "word for word" compared to what I said. Nothing.
You've shown the CD community that you have sociopathic tendencies, and now you're building not just straw men, but entire villages.
Fact is, most pets are treated like family members and you know it.
Backtracking isn't going to help you now.
Yeah, human family members not dog family members! You are forcing a dog to be a human! That is what you are doing. If you don't see that's abuse, I can't help you.
What you said is the same as slave owners used to say that slaves were better off to be slaves. What's the difference?
Nothing written there is "word for word" compared to what I said. Nothing.
You've shown the CD community that you have sociopathic tendencies, and now you're building not just straw men, but entire villages.
Fact is, most pets are treated like family members and you know it.
Backtracking isn't going to help you now.
Look, I am not doing a straw man's argument, you are.
On one hand, you say we can't punch a dog because it's animal cruelty but on the other hand, it's totally fine to farm and slaughter millions of chicken and cows and it's all right to step on cockroach and use mouse trap to kill rats. It's all right because chicken and cows are for food, and roaches and rates... they aren't disgusting.
Have you ever stepped on a bear trap? Yeah, that's how a rat would feel on a mouse trap. It takes HOURS for it to die of exhaustion but you don't care about that.
I am sure most of you hate puppy mills but take a guess why the puppy mills exist to begin with?
Anybody?
Yeah, because there are dog owners. More people want to own dogs, more people will grow dogs to sell them into the market, then more dogs will end up in the shelters to be killed.
It's a never ending cycle - every dog you rescue, there are 10 more coming out of puppy mills. If you truly care about animals, stop owning them and tell people to stop owning them.
Do you want to hear how they grow a particular breed? Yeah, you treat your dog like a family member but to have your dog, how many of them have to die? Do you really think every litter is perfect? Please don't kid yourself. Try a little inbred yourself and you will know the wonderful results.
Somehow, all these are better than someone punching a dog.
So... if the law specifies the cage size, it makes it all OK! Like 5x5 cage is abuse, 6.5x6.5 is not. Got it!
I seriously wish you were sarcastic but unfortunately, you aren't. Look in the mirror and ask yourself, does that truly make it OK? Using your words, what defense does a poor chicken have? None. They are locked in cages in a size specified by you. Yes, that is still abuse even using your own standard. If there were a creator who judge you on animal abuse, you would NOT get away with that! You know that just as much as I do.
Well for one, I didn't say the law would be perfect, I said it'd be start. There is going to be some inconvenience to stock animals no matter what we do. We can at least make it as little as possible. Number 2, I don't believe in some all powerful sky god that is going to judge me one day, so that doesn't work on me either.
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Yeah, human family members not dog family members! You are forcing a dog to be a human! That is what you are doing. If you don't see that's abuse, I can't help you.
What you said is the same as slave owners used to say that slaves were better off to be slaves. What's the difference?
You've gone off the deep end and any further discussion with you on the topic would be pointless on my part....goodbye
Look, I am not doing a straw man's argument, you are.
On one hand, you say we can't punch a dog because it's animal cruelty but on the other hand, it's totally fine to farm and slaughter millions of chicken and cows and it's all right to step on cockroach and use mouse trap to kill rats. It's all right because chicken and cows are for food, and roaches and rates... they aren't disgusting.
Have you ever stepped on a bear trap? Yeah, that's how a rat would feel on a mouse trap. It takes HOURS for it to die of exhaustion but you don't care about that.
Where's the consistency?
I don't care about that? Are you some kind of psychic, Miss Cleo? What are the next lotto numbers?
I would NEVER use any kind of mouse trap, glue or otherwise.
Well for one, I didn't say the law would be perfect, I said it'd be start. There is going to be some inconvenience to stock animals no matter what we do. We can at least make it as little as possible. Number 2, I don't believe in some all powerful sky god that is going to judge me one day, so that doesn't work on me either.
You've gone off the deep end and any further discussion with you on the topic would be pointless on my part....goodbye
Yeah, I'm done with him, as well. He sounds unhinged.
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