Are urban democrats more pro-business than other Democrats? (unemployed, independent, layman)

[shadowzoid]

I'm trying to find a BA topic (so I guess it doesn't have to be THAT novel) and I'm considering city politics. One idea I have is that American city politicians tend to be pro-business. However, most US cities are democrat-dominated, I assume due to the urban concentration of social liberals. Yet (I haven't looked at data yet), it seems that most of them are pro-business. For example, both Daley and Rahm in Chicago are pro-business. Seattle. also Dem-dominated, has pro-business politicians (save for the recently elected socialist). Bloomberg was independent, but he was a social-liberal and fiscal conservative. My theory is city are stronghold for social liberal policies, but not so much for fiscally liberal. As such, it is a good political tactic to be a democrat, so most politicains choose that route. And since there is low GOP competition, they split within themselves.

Anyone see any truth to this? And anyone know of any good research involving this. And finally, any advice if this is a good subject for an undergrad BA thesis - or at least "cool" enough that I should explore it more? Thanks!

[Frank DeForrest]

What is pro business? Or do you mean crony capitalist?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by shadowzoid

I'm trying to find a BA topic (so I guess it doesn't have to be THAT novel) and I'm considering city politics. One idea I have is that American city politicians tend to be pro-business. However, most US cities are democrat-dominated, I assume due to the urban concentration of social liberals. Yet (I haven't looked at data yet), it seems that most of them are pro-business. For example, both Daley and Rahm in Chicago are pro-business. Seattle. also Dem-dominated, has pro-business politicians (save for the recently elected socialist). Bloomberg was independent, but he was a social-liberal and fiscal conservative. My theory is city are stronghold for social liberal policies, but not so much for fiscally liberal. As such, it is a good political tactic to be a democrat, so most politicains choose that route. And since there is low GOP competition, they split within themselves.

Anyone see any truth to this? And anyone know of any good research involving this. And finally, any advice if this is a good subject for an undergrad BA thesis - or at least "cool" enough that I should explore it more? Thanks!

I have yet to meet anyone who was anti business, so the answer is no.

Also what does fiscally liberal/conservative mean ?

[gunlover]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I have yet to meet anyone who was anti business, so the answer is no.

Also what does fiscally liberal/conservative mean ?

Really?

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by gunlover

Really?

yes, really do you care to define them ?

ill be truthful, the whole point of me posting that is to bait you into showing that what you define as fiscally conservative has nothing to be with being conservative and actually just means fiscal responsibility.

[shadowzoid]

Ok, fiscal conservative is "fiscal responsibility," whatever. I don't really want to get into the politics of that. I mean, if you look at economic theory, including the complex math derived from keynesian practices, multiplier effect, and especially the Ricardian Equilibrium, high government spending can be considered "fiscally responsible." Maybe you don't think so, but since it isn't a universally-agreed upon title, it is "politically contentious," and thus not relevant to an objective academic paper.

[BMORE]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

I have yet to meet anyone who was anti business, so the answer is no.

Also what does fiscally liberal/conservative mean ?

My aunt, who is Social Democrat maybe even a Socialist, isn't necessarily anti-business, but she isn't business-friendly nor fond of business. She feels as if she only shops at business because of the sheer fact that there isn't a govt store for her to go to; we once had a debate about corporate taxes in Maryland and I kept stressing that Maryland needs to be more competitive to attract companies from VA and she simply shook her head "I don't care if Maryland loses business to VA." so my head literally was going in circles, I was like "you complain about people being unemployed and dogging republicans for not passing the Presidents jobs bills when you don't ever want Maryland to have businesses!"

Another point this same aunt stresses is that somehow Exxon is considered a small business that paid no taxes last year, but she also doesn't mind a flat tax on the rich of about 40%.

But I actually think the total opposite OP, it seems as if the more rural Democrats are pro-business to me as opposed to the urban democrats. It seems like the rural Democrats are always looking to open a business like a barbershop, a food place, landscaping business, and etc. while the urban democrats are more open to shopping at small businesses that are owned by people who are more independent democrats as opposed to liberal democrats. But then again, this is just from my experience.

To put it in short, I believe that Independents are more business friendly than Democrats or Republicans since both have their biases with business.

[shadowzoid]

Ok, maybe more clarification is exhibiting voting patterns that advocate free-market policies and the rise of global financial capital over the demands of labor and combating rising inequality. Relative to non-local-urban democrats

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by shadowzoid

Ok, fiscal conservative is "fiscal responsibility," whatever. I don't really want to get into the politics of that. I mean, if you look at economic theory, including the complex math derived from keynesian practices, multiplier effect, and especially the Ricardian Equilibrium, high government spending can be considered "fiscally responsible." Maybe you don't think so, but since it isn't a universally-agreed upon title, it is "politically contentious," and thus not relevant to an objective academic paper.

I have a Degree in Business Management and will soon have a second in Entrepreneurship. what im trying to say is you used a lot of big business/economic words that do not support the argument you are trying to make

The words liberal and conservative are about ideology and how it stems down into everything in our lives.

It is not in anyway conservative to not over spend, nor is it liberal to overspend. There for, it has nothing to do with ideology and should be addressed as such.

a Keynesian can be just as fiscally responsible as anyone believing in the Austrian school.

[BMORE]

Originally Posted by shadowzoid

Ok, maybe more clarification is exhibiting voting patterns that advocate free-market policies and the rise of global financial capital over the demands of labor and combating rising inequality. Relative to non-local-urban democrats

One question, what would be your exact definition of a Fiscal Liberal? And while I've read this post a few times, I don't quite understand where you're getting at. Are you saying that data from voting patterns state rather one is an advocate of the free market? If that's what you're saying, I completely agree, I'd never vote for someone who is promoting a communist agenda for the sheer fact that I consider myself a firm-believer in capitalism. As a matter of fact, just explain this post in layman's terms because I want to give you the most accurate answer.