Lefties cry for "morals", but fight public mentions of God. (accuse, how much)

[sanspeur]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Many do, that is why many think gay marriage is right when it is wrong.

That is the latest movement led by Christians, the immoral anti gay rights movement....Basically it seems to me that in general Christians should just bundle them all together and call it the anti human progress movement.

Did you know that there are eight states that by law ban atheists from running for public office...How moral is that?

[burdell]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Of course unalienable rights have been denied throughout the course of history.

By definition, un(in)alienable rights are unable to be taken away from or given away by the possessor.

Care to guess again?

[jmqueen]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Many do, that is why many think gay marriage is right when it is wrong.

Fine with me, as long as you don't try to turn your book of fairytales into U.S. law.

[jmqueen]

Originally Posted by Harrier

There is nothing of which to "weasel out"

Harrier is being consistent - you are not.

Harrier said that rights come from a source outside human beings(God or nature - take your pick).

You are the one who said that they come from people.

Of course unalienable rights have been denied throughout the course of history.

What do you think the American Revolution was about?

King George III trampled on the rights of the colonists, and they reacted by overthrowing his rule and implementing a government that would secure those rights, which is the sole purpose of government, by the way.

Now, what was it that you were trying to say?

Wow.

That was epic weaseling, better even that I expected. Well done!

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by burdell

IF you say a right that's been lost is still unalienable, just WHAT is your idea of being unalienable?

A denial of a right is not the same as losing that right.

A right is something that a person has a claim upon, no matter what other circumstances may ensue.

A person who is denied the right to vote, for instance, still retains that right, despite the act of fallible human beings(usually Democrats).

[jjrose]

Originally Posted by Taratova

Christians did not believe blacks were less than human..since when did Christianity promote slavery?

The bible tells you how to treat your slaves. And many people wanting to keep slavery used the bible to justify slavery.

How the Bible was used to justify slavery, abolitionism – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by jmqueen

Wow.

That was epic weaseling, better even that I expected. Well done!

Harrier stated the truth and he exposed your dishonest tactics.

Your blatant attempt at mischaracterization FAILS.

[cuebald]

Originally Posted by Harrier

We aren't discussing slavery.

You attempted to smear all Christians and Harrier soundly rebutted you.

Christians not only supported, but were the facilitators of abolition, women's suffrage, and civil rights.

Deal with that.

That wasn't that long after they killed the Indians and stole their land, was it...?

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by alphamale

Almost every thread regarding the "inequality of wealth" contains a mention about rich people not having "morals".

You want "morals" in a nation which you want to have no religion.

How is this possible?

Morals....Religion....Morals....Religion....

They have NOTHING to do with each other.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge

The only time we assert that an action is a right is when someone tries to deny us (ie not grant or take away) that ability to act. So rights can be denied, but that doesn't change our view that it is still our right. Slaves had a right to freedom. They believed that, though their rights were denied at every turn.

Harrier disagrees that a right is only asserted if it is denied(do you only vote when you not allowed? ).

However, the bolded is well stated and spot on.