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Old 12-02-2013, 03:46 PM
 
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File uploading services are loathed by you?
The ones that turn a blind eye to infringement do. If you're going to run a service that allows people to upload files to the best of your ability you need to eliminate the illegal activity. You can't just shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:51 PM
 
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The ones that turn a blind eye to infringement do. If you're going to run a service that allows people to upload files to the best of your ability you need to eliminate the illegal activity. You can't just shrug your shoulders and ignore it.
File services do manage their svcs. I haven't seen one yet that doesn't.
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Old 12-02-2013, 03:56 PM
 
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Copyright infringement shouldn't be a criminal offense, that's ****ed up. It gives the huge corporations waaaayyyy too much power.
Not just infringement, but being "adjacent" to it can make one a criminal.
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Old 12-02-2013, 06:30 PM
 
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Excerpts from KEI's analysis.
http://keionline.org/node/1825
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The dispute resolution provisions in the TPP permit both governments and private investors to bring actions and obtain monetary damages if arbitrators find that the implementation of the agreement is not favorable enough to right holders. This effectively gives right holders three bites at the apple -- one at the WTO and two at the TPP. They can lobby governments to advance their positions before a WTO panel, and/or, the separate dispute mechanisms available to governments and investors in the TPP. There are no opportunities for consumers to bring such disputes.
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The trade agreement includes proposals for more than a dozen measures that would limit competition and raise prices in markets for drugs. These include (but are not limited to) provisions that would lower global standards for obtaining patents, make it easier to file patents in developing countries, extend the term of patents beyond 20 years, and create exclusive rights to rely upon test data as evidence that drugs are safe and effective. Most of these issues have brackets in the text, and one of the most contentious has yet to be tabled -- the term of the monopoly in the test data used to register biologic drugs. The United States is consistently backing the measures that will make drugs more expensive, and less accessible.
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It did not hurt that AdvaMed, the trade association for the medical device manufacturers, hired Ralph F. Ives as Executive Vice President for Global Strategy & Analysis. Before becoming a lobbyist for the medical device industry, Ives was the head of pharmaceutical policy for USTR. And Ives is just one of an army of lobbyists (including former Senator Evan Bayh) representing the medical devices industry. ITAC3, the USTR advisory board for Chemicals, Pharmaceuticals, Health/Science Products And Services, includes not only Ralph Ives, but also representatives from Medronic, Abbott, Johnson and Johnson, DemeTech, North Coast Medical and Airmed Biotech -- all companies involved in the medical device business. All are considered “cleared advisors” to USTR and have access to the TPP text.
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Old 12-02-2013, 07:00 PM
 
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Is this a serious post? You want people who are at best committing a civil offense to receive the same punishment as someone who committed a capital offense? I would love to hear your legal justification for such nonsense. I'm sure I'll be waiting a while.
It is called internet debate hyperbole.

Either way, I essentially agree, at least in principle if not the severity.
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Old 12-08-2013, 08:03 PM
 
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Maybe follow Iceland's lead?

“As Iceland struggles to regain its footing with a new government, U.S. citizens may or may not be able to look to Iceland as an example of perfect democracy in action. The real question, though, is why weren’t U.S. citizens given the information about the ousting of the Icelandic government and the jailing of the unscrupulous bankers? Are journalists in control of the mainstream media or is there some truth to accusations that big business may, in fact, be strong-arming reporters to keep quiet about world events that could inspire similar actions here in the U.S.?”

Jim Kirwan 12-8-13
Horn of Africa
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:24 AM
 
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If it puts illegal music downloaders in prison for the rest of their lives, I'm all for it.

Wow.....
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Old 12-09-2013, 10:19 AM
 
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Maybe follow Iceland's lead?

“As Iceland struggles to regain its footing with a new government, U.S. citizens may or may not be able to look to Iceland as an example of perfect democracy in action. The real question, though, is why weren’t U.S. citizens given the information about the ousting of the Icelandic government and the jailing of the unscrupulous bankers? Are journalists in control of the mainstream media or is there some truth to accusations that big business may, in fact, be strong-arming reporters to keep quiet about world events that could inspire similar actions here in the U.S.?”

Jim Kirwan 12-8-13
Horn of Africa
There is a good deal of misinformation about Iceland, so have to be careful with that. As to the media, no mystery why certain things aren't really covered considering who owns the Big 6.


Birgitta Jónsdóttir is a good source for Icelandic activity imo.
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Old 12-09-2013, 11:29 AM
 
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There is a good deal of misinformation about Iceland, so have to be careful with that. As to the media, no mystery why certain things aren't really covered considering who owns the Big 6.


Birgitta Jónsdóttir is a good source for Icelandic activity imo.
She is a looker!

In the many meanings of the word.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/07583983813010318112
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Old 08-13-2014, 06:17 PM
 
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Kei's Breakdown of the latest wikileaks release of this agreement.
KEI analysis of Wikileaks leak of TPP IPR text, from August 30, 2013 | Knowledge Ecology International
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The text reveals that the most anti-consumer and anti-freedom country in the negotiations is the United States, taking the most extreme and hard-line positions on most issues. But the text also reveals that several other countries in the negotiation are willing to compromise the public’s rights, in a quest for a new trade deal with the United States.

The United States and other countries have defended the secrecy of the negotiations in part on the grounds that the government negotiators receive all the advice they need from 700 corporate advisors cleared to see the text.

LOL

The U.S. negotiators claim that the proposals need not be subject to public scrutiny because they are merely promoting U.S. legal traditions. Other governments claim that they will resist corporate right holder lobbying pressures. But the version released by Wikileaks reminds us why government officials supervised only by well-connected corporate advisors can’t be trusted.
An enduring mystery is the appalling acceptance of the secrecy by the working news media.
Blame the puppet politicians, blame the progressives, blame the citizens, but don't you dare blame the ones writing the policies that politicians are not even allowed to read.
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