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Old 12-02-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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One of my relatives spent time over the Thanksgiving weekend complaining about his lot in life. He says he works hard and is a college graduate (BS in Business Administration) but has never made more than $10 an hour.

A bold relative who was not afraid to pick a fight, spoke up and stated in no uncertain terms that there is no reason that someone with a college degree and is living in a large metro area and is forty one years old and is of a reasonable intelligence with no social or emotional disabilities, shouldn't have done better for himself.

The outspoken relative said he understands short term set backs due to the economy or bad luck, but no one who has all the advantages of the complaining 41 year old should have been making so little money for so long. Get yourself some skills, a job in a good company and work hard, you will be successful!

So in America isn't there still an opportunity career success - OVER THE LONG TERM- if you are college degreed and work hard?

Is there something wrong with my relative who has made less than $10 an hour since he entered the workforce in the early 1990s? Or is it the system that is holding him back?
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:00 AM
 
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Something seriously wrong with him!
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:01 AM
 
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My guess is it is your relatives issue with only making $10 an hour if they have a BS in Business Administration.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:03 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Something seriously wrong with him!
Workers have been losing ground for decades. It is possible that someone had a low-level job, in a poorly paid industry, and was neither promoted or was employable in a different field.

This is retailing:

See chart: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...n1-blog480.png
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:06 AM
 
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One of my relatives spent time over the Thanksgiving weekend complaining about his lot in life. He says he works hard and is a college graduate (BS in Business Administration) but has never made more than $10 an hour.
Maybe he learned from his Business Administration curriculum not to go into business.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:11 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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One of my relatives spent time over the Thanksgiving weekend complaining about his lot in life. He says he works hard and is a college graduate (BS in Business Administration) but has never made more than $10 an hour.

A bold relative who was not afraid to pick a fight, spoke up and stated in no uncertain terms that there is no reason that someone with a college degree and is living in a large metro area and is forty one years old and is of a reasonable intelligence with no social or emotional disabilities, shouldn't have done better for himself.

The outspoken relative said he understands short term set backs due to the economy or bad luck, but no one who has all the advantages of the complaining 41 year old should have been making so little money for so long. Get yourself some skills, a job in a good company and work hard, you will be successful!

So in America isn't there still an opportunity career success - OVER THE LONG TERM- if you are college degreed and work hard?

Is there something wrong with my relative who has made less than $10 an hour since he entered the workforce in the early 1990s? Or is it the system that is holding him back?
I would say your relative just didn't try very hard. Not that we don't have issues in America and the worker has been devalued - but STILL.

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Something seriously wrong with him!
Yep.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:17 AM
 
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Something is definitely off.

Even if you start at the bottom rung in industries that pay minimum wage -- retail, food service, etc.... if you demonstrate talent and hard work you can be identified for advancement into leadership roles that lead to management positions that pay much more than $10/hour!


You can work as an assistant store manager at, say, a Banana Republic clothing store and make in the high 40s.... general manager into the 50s-70s and above depending on volume.... all WITHOUT a degree. Just experience and work ethic and management talent.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:20 AM
 
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There are really too many people with college degrees nowadays.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:22 AM
 
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It's not the system.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:24 AM
 
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There are really too many people with college degrees nowadays.
But few of them know how to work.
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