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Old 12-03-2013, 03:47 AM
 
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Yet again, another elderly person causes an accident and this time it was fatal. To me, it's vehicular homicide or at least Driving While Impaired (too old for brain to function at that quick decision-making level). I wonder how many times has someone tried to take her keys away. Not to mention, this driver is most likely not going to be held responsible for paying the medical bills of the injured students since she isn't being charged.

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There was not sufficient evidence to prove the accident was reckless, negligent or intentional, the essential elements of such crimes as negligent homicide, manslaughter or second-degree murder. They decided it would be unwise and unjustified to seek criminal charges.

Because the collision occurred on private property, police would have had to show the driver was under the influence or was speeding to even seek misdemeanor charges, and there was no evidence of either.
I think negligence definitely played a part in this case. She was too negligent to give up her license.This town, is filled with senior citizens.

87 year-old woman kills student after crashing through classroom

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Old 12-03-2013, 04:07 AM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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We recently had an 80 yr old driver crash through a daycare, injuring 3 children.


Car crashes into Laval daycare, injures 4 - Montreal - CBC News
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Old 12-03-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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Obviously we need federal car control.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:19 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Yet again, another elderly person causes an accident and this time it was fatal. To me, it's vehicular homicide or at least Driving While Impaired (too old for brain to function at that quick decision-making level). I wonder how many times has someone tried to take her keys away. Not to mention, this driver is most likely not going to be held responsible for paying the medical bills of the injured students since she isn't being charged.



I think negligence definitely played a part in this case. She was too negligent to give up her license.This town, is filled with senior citizens.

87 year-old woman kills student after crashing through classroom
These stories are sad and yes, there should be a time when people are no longer allowed to have a license, but can't the same be said about the young driver? There are a lot more people injured and killed by teen drivers than by older drivers. No, we do not need federal car control. BTW, the example of the elderly person and the day care center isn't in the USA. It is in Canada Maybe you would like to see international laws related to who can operate a car.
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:29 AM
 
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These stories are sad and yes, there should be a time when people are no longer allowed to have a license, but can't the same be said about the young driver? There are a lot more people injured and killed by teen drivers than by older drivers.
When I read stories of accidents caused by teen drivers, it's due to being distracted or impaired. It's usually texting while drive, being drunk or high, distracted by friends, or going too fast for conditions.

These stick out to me:

16 year-old has been driving for 4 days and was texting while driving; she dies after drifting into oncoming tractor-trailor (Missouri)

Teen girl dies after car surfing



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Obviously we need federal car control.
Not necessarily… In my area, a portion of our tax dollars pay for a service that takes senior citizens around to run their errands
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Old 12-03-2013, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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How is this any different than if the driver was in their 20's or 30's or 40's?

In my area, we recently had a 27 year old drive a truck into a small house.....the house was totally demolished......no one was killed.....but that was just luck. He was speeding and lost control. Should he lose his license for the rest of his life? Obviously, he is not trustworthy behind the wheel.

I don't get the big deal of shining a spot light on the elderly when they have an accident.....the same type of accident younger people have.

How about that taxi driver in NYC that drove into a crowd and cost a young woman her leg?

Would that have been any worse if the driver was 80?

Accidents happen.

Why should the elderly be held to a higher standard?
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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How is this any different than if the driver was in their 20's or 30's or 40's?

In my area, we recently had a 27 year old drive a truck into a small house.....the house was totally demolished......no one was killed.....but that was just luck. He was speeding and lost control. Should he lose his license for the rest of his life? Obviously, he is not trustworthy behind the wheel.

I don't get the big deal of shining a spot light on the elderly when they have an accident.....the same type of accident younger people have.

How about that taxi driver in NYC that drove into a crowd and cost a young woman her leg?

Would that have been any worse if the driver was 80?

Accidents happen.

Why should the elderly be held to a higher standard?
At 87, I can guarantee you that her reaction time is a lot slower than someone else. Ever heard of "Use it or lose it"? This also applies to the power of your brain. Once we retire, we aren't using our brains on a daily basis. That's why doctors and psychologists encourage retirees to stay active.

Regarding the 27 year-old that crashed in your area, he was most likely distracted. There is also the possibility that he was going too fast for conditions, fell asleep, hesitated, or had an episode of a stroke, heart attack, etc.

The NYC taxi driver that you were referring to most likely was going too fast for conditions.

Whether or not if the driver was 80 or 87, it doesn't matter. She, like most elderly folks, most likely a slower reaction time. When you don't use your brain, it turns into slush. Have you ever visited an assisted living center (or other place that caters to the elderly) and you see those people that are sitting there staring into space but it doesn't seem like they have any life in them?




This 90 year-old man is probably a much better driver than other retirees. Here he is getting his Master's of Art in Education.

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Old 12-03-2013, 11:39 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So one story about an older person killing a younger person is trumped many times over by young unattentive drivers texting while driving and slaughtering many more of all ages on the road.

Yesterday a 20 something girl was doing 75 in heavy traffic on 287 by the Piscataway exit, barely staying in her lans and surprise... she had a ciggy hanging from her lips, no hands on the wheel and used two hands to text. Couldn't create a more fantastical image of disregard of human life than that driver.

So who will run out of stories first? Old ladies no longer qualified to drive or texting young ladies oficcially qualified to drive ?
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Old 12-03-2013, 11:42 AM
 
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Obviously we need federal car control.
I think this is called "Can't see the forest for the trees".

What we need, of course, is (federal) car driver control. It would be nice if the states did it, but if not then maybe the Feds should step in (*).

And...

What we need, of course, is (federal) gun owner control, as opined previously.

A well-regulated militia and all that...

(*) Or maybe the problem isn't bad enough to concern ourselves with that much.
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Old 12-03-2013, 12:03 PM
 
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I have always thought everyone should be required to retake their drivers test each time their license is due for renewal.
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