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Old 12-03-2013, 08:42 PM
 
Location: South Texas
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And what political party did the companies ascribe too that shifted the jobs from Detroit that cut its population in half? It's real easy to assign blame, but quite another understand the cause. Detroit's real downfall is outsourcing, and has little to do with political gamesmanship after the fact.
Consider the cause of outsourcing: the rising cost of doing business, which is inflated by taxes, regulations, and the cost of labor, which in and of itself is inflated by union contracts.

Guess which political party favors higher tax rates, ever-increasing regulations, and is owned by Big Labor? That's right, the Democratic Party - the same one that has been in control of Detroit politics for decades.

 
Old 12-03-2013, 08:43 PM
 
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And what political party did the companies ascribe too that shifted the jobs from Detroit that cut its population in half? It's real easy to assign blame, but quite another understand the cause. Detroit's real downfall is outsourcing, and has little to do with political gamesmanship after the fact.

Think about who gets hurt here. Management walks away with millions while working class people get screwed out of what was promised. Are you really against working men & women?
Oh please, Obama is a two term President, has anything changed in reference to what political parties the companies ascribe to?

Typical blithering nonsense, no matter what, you figure out how to blame everything an everyone else except a democrat.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 09:20 AM
 
Location: South Texas
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I can use my ten dollar bill to force the convenience store to give me a large hotdog and a great big slushee thing.
No, you can't.

The convenience store might voluntarily enter into an mutually-beneficial exchange with you, in which they agree to accept an amount of your money (specified by them) in exchange for their large hotdog and their giant slurpee. But they aren't obligated to do so by anything other than their desire to earn profit.



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They owe me that.
They don't owe you jack . But since you think they do, tell me why they owe you something.

The only chip that isn't a bargaining chip is the one on your shoulder. You need to correct your fundamental misunderstanding of how capitalism works.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Bummer for the supposedly pro-business Pubbies.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 09:29 AM
 
Location: USA
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Especially with Congressional Republicans trying to head off growth at every turn.
Progressives are not likely to tell the truth.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Cold Springs, NV
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Oh please, Obama is a two term President, has anything changed in reference to what political parties the companies ascribe to?

Typical blithering nonsense, no matter what, you figure out how to blame everything an everyone else except a democrat.
Wow, this got out of hand. It is possible for someone to not be politically biased. The rust belt has seen a shift of jobs outsourced to third world countries. All I said was that it wasn't working men, or women's fault that this occurred, and it's just another example of wealthy management profiting from the working class loss.
Your claim that I assign fault to a single party is false, but Detroit's loss of population is a major factor in it's budget issue's and cannot be assigned blame to either. It would be akin to blaming Bush for 9/11 which would be silly.
BTW, I support ideals from both parties, do you? I support the sequester, and don't understand why the GOP may cave on it other than election year. Don't get me started about immigration, but the working class consumer is good for our economy.
Sheeple on people!
 
Old 12-04-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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Wow, this got out of hand. It is possible for someone to not be politically biased. The rust belt has seen a shift of jobs outsourced to third world countries. All I said was that it wasn't working men, or women's fault that this occurred, and it's just another example of wealthy management profiting from the working class loss.
Your claim that I assign fault to a single party is false, but Detroit's loss of population is a major factor in it's budget issue's and cannot be assigned blame to either. It would be akin to blaming Bush for 9/11 which would be silly.
BTW, I support ideals from both parties, do you? I support the sequester, and don't understand why the GOP may cave on it other than election year. Don't get me started about immigration, but the working class consumer is good for our economy.
Sheeple on people!

What you fail to understand is that there's a huge segment of ignorant jackasses that have been conditioned to believe everything is political. If a bear sh*its in the woods, somehow that ties back to a bad decision made by Clinton or Obama.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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Do you live in the United States?? Do we have a Democrat as President?? Is our economy in the toilet?? If you answered yes to at least 2 of those questions, your initial post is ridiculous
 
Old 12-04-2013, 04:37 PM
 
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Detroit's real downfall is outsourcing, and has little to do with political gamesmanship after the fact.

Really? Explain how crossing the imaginary line between the city of Detroit and the suburbs results in a night and day difference in economic conditions.
 
Old 12-04-2013, 04:39 PM
 
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The economy was smoking hot when Carter was president.

Explain all those layoffs in 1979 and 80.
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