Sharpton townhall in Chicago on gun violence erupts in revolt against political machine (generation, cocaine)

[desertdetroiter]

Originally Posted by california-jewel

I have very good black friends who feel just as you do, so I can't argue the point. They feel it is their own party, and government holding some blacks down.

These are highly successful friends of mine, in high positions that did it on their own. With loving supportive families who make their own minds up always.

They won't argue with you, because they feel some blacks do feel inferior, or feel they are not capable of achieving their dream, the party dictates this for them. What my friends hate most, is what the government does not do for the black community. They will not argue with you about massive welfare and sissy nanny state that is crippling dependency. And foolish tax payer dollars. For some this does kill any motivation that they might have not all, but quite a lot.
If you have a dream, don't give up on it no matter who you are, to give up, is predictable and letting yourself down.

So let me get this straight...

Your "black friends" who happen to be conservatives (ahem) HATE what the government does NOT do for the black community?

LMAO...ok.

[Gtownoe]

I like what I hear from the video. Ready to see some action in the New Year.


Hope the Prison Industrial Complex is addressed.



And for Conservatives getting excited about blacks joining the Republican party en masse... don't. It's time for a totally new direction.

[Hadoken]

Originally Posted by andywire

Democrats are the real racists. They believe minorities can not prosper without the "helping" hand of the democratic party (modern day plantation). By advocating a massive welfare sissy nanny state, they are really creating a crippling dependency to the tax payer dollars. This kills any motivation to seek success on your own terms.

Here's why this sort of junk never flies. In my experience (and as a black guy who designs military equipment, I have a lot of it), the more conservative a white person is, the more likely they are to insist that I absolutely could not have achieved whatever success I did without "Affirmative Action", and the more likely they are to be visibly angered when I simply do far better than they do at the same job. The conservatives were never nearly as upset when the white relative of some higher-up or other was given easy jobs and remarkably high pay, however.

Kind of like how a certain black guy was elected President, and democrats mostly (there were exceptions) simply noted his superior campaign, while republicans screamed about AA, and voting fraud, and he couldn't possibly have high grades or speak without a teleprompter, and so on. They sure liked when some incoherent white woman from Alaska tries to talk about some social issue, though, and they sure loved GWB. Still do, in fact.

In other words, no, it's actually republicans who think that black people need a "helping" hand. White democrats mostly view it another way - namely, that most white people already receive an enormous "helping" hand, and that it's only fair that non-white people receive one as well, or at least not be actively pushed down.

[petch751]

Originally Posted by Hadoken

Here's why this sort of junk never flies. In my experience (and as a black guy who designs military equipment, I have a lot of it), the more conservative a white person is, the more likely they are to insist that I absolutely could not have achieved whatever success I did without "Affirmative Action", and the more likely they are to be visibly angered when I simply do far better than they do at the same job. The conservatives were never nearly as upset when the white relative of some higher-up or other was given easy jobs and remarkably high pay, however.

Kind of like how a certain black guy was elected President, and democrats mostly (there were exceptions) simply noted his superior campaign, while republicans screamed about AA, and voting fraud, and he couldn't possibly have high grades or speak without a teleprompter, and so on. They sure liked when some incoherent white woman from Alaska tries to talk about some social issue, though, and they sure loved GWB. Still do, in fact.

In other words, no, it's actually republicans who think that black people need a "helping" hand. White democrats mostly view it another way - namely, that most white people already receive an enormous "helping" hand, and that it's only fair that non-white people receive one as well, or at least not be actively pushed down.

I'm a white conservative and I say congratulations on your achievements. If it is a case of affirmative action oh well, anyone would have taken all the help they could get. It's especially good if you didn't waste it and do a good job.

Sure Obama ran a superior campaign to help himself but he sure is doing a dismal job on the job.

[GuyNTexas]

Originally Posted by Hadoken

Here's why this sort of junk never flies. In my experience (and as a black guy who designs military equipment, I have a lot of it), the more conservative a white person is, the more likely they are to insist that I absolutely could not have achieved whatever success I did without "Affirmative Action", and the more likely they are to be visibly angered when I simply do far better than they do at the same job. The conservatives were never nearly as upset when the white relative of some higher-up or other was given easy jobs and remarkably high pay, however.

That is such a load of steaming manure, all it is is your confession of your own racist attitude.

True conservatives (not these leftist mainstream republicrats] celebrate and applaud individual responsibility and personal achievement through hard work. It is undwrstood that it is through this means, that success is long term, and benefits everyone. The concept that a "high tide raises all boats" is a totally foreign concept to the leftist collectivists, who dismiss individualism as the enemy of the collective, and that one individual's success comes at the expense of those that failed.

Or, as your lord and savior said ... "you didn't build that!"

Originally Posted by Hadoken

Kind of like how a certain black guy was elected President, and democrats mostly (there were exceptions) simply noted his superior campaign, while republicans screamed about AA, and voting fraud, and he couldn't possibly have high grades or speak without a teleprompter, and so on. They sure liked when some incoherent white woman from Alaska tries to talk about some social issue, though, and they sure loved GWB. Still do, in fact.

You might be a real whiz with military gear, but simple math is apparently not your thing, since the black demographic in this country could't elect a dog catcher with only the 13% you represent. It took a lot ... and I mean A WHOLE LOT of help from those racist whities to deliver you that "tingle" you feel having a black man in the White House that isn't part of the kitchen staff.

Furthermore, few presidents earned or received more ridicule than that buffoon Bush. Of course, the republicrats were only too happy to assist Obama's coronation as king, by running a corpse against him ... an old, tired, career politico that never had much credibility to begin with, but lost whatever he might have had with his continued support of Bush.

In other words ... McCain was a ringer ... and just as an insurance policy in case too many might vote that zombie in over Obama, they added the Palin factor, just for good measure. Obama didn't win a thing ... had the Republicrats not sabotaged Ron Paul, obama would have been toast.

Originally Posted by Hadoken

In other words, no, it's actually republicans who think that black people need a "helping" hand. White democrats mostly view it another way - namely, that most white people already receive an enormous "helping" hand, and that it's only fair that non-white people receive one as well, or at least not be actively pushed down.

You really have an unreasonably high opinion of yourself, don't you? You really believe that you know more about what someone else thinks, than they do!

Maybe we should put your rear end in the White House ... anything would be an improvement to what we have stinking up the joint now.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by BentBow

He was just stating that the TEA Party had a very good idea. The town hall meetings with constituents.
The quote, "blue ribbon negros" they have place in office, are not hearing their constituents

Which as I already stated, says nothing about voting for Republicans or the Tea Party. Democrats have talked for the past 3 years about having our own version of the Tea Party so that our elected officials shift back from the left instead of leaning to the right.

[dsjj251]

Originally Posted by GuyNTexas

You really believe that you know more about what someone else thinks, than they do!

Um, you realize the post he was responding to did exactly that, saying any black person who voted democratic thought themselves to be inferior and was simply a modern day slave.

[pnwmdk]

Originally Posted by desertdetroiter

They aren't going to join the Tea Party. Ever.

So.

The TEA Party message is: we are taxed enough. Government has been irresponsible, corrupt, inbred, and incompetent.

That message crosses ALL race and culture "boundaries" you imagine exist.

[Phil306]

Originally Posted by petch751

Phil, what made you realize that liberalism is not the way? Honest question. What do your democrat friends say about you being a conservative?

I grew up on welfare. Food stamps (real food stamps, not some BS EBT card). There was a stigma to it and you wanted to do everything possible to get off of those things. Don't get me wrong, my mom was a single mother with 4 kids (my father was killed in the Vietnam War). We needed welfare and I don't begrudge anyone who does for getting it.

However, when I started getting older, I noticed the people I was growing up with, still getting food stamps? Why? Why are these people getting free breakfast at school, after school programs, etc? My mom doesn't make anymore money then yours?

Today, to this day, the same people I grew up with are STILL, 40 yrs later, on welfare. Still getting EBT, phone entitlements, rent entitlements, and everything under the sun. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason not too get out of "the system." NONE. Why? Whatever you want, whatever you need, is provided for, by the taxpayers and the government.

Is that system perfect? Nope. But why work? Why get up and go to a job and listen to a boss tell you what to do, when to do it? I can stay home, all day long, and do NOTHING and get by just fine. Ask yourself this question? When was the last time you saw a skinny person on welfare? When was the last time a person on welfare doesn't have cigarettes and alcohol?

I finally realized these people don't need a helping hand. They are abusing the system. A system I was paying for. And they were laughing at me for improving my lot in life. Welfare and the system enslaves people too it. They cannot live and/or function without it.

Liberal/socialists deny this by saying you can only stay on welfare for a few years. Our savior Bill Clinton saw to that. Of course, they are clueless to the massive loopholes in the system, which truly allow persons to stay on welfare forever.

Welfare and social entitlement programs are NOTHING but financial slavery to black people. THAT is what it is. Nothing more and I cannot stand the fact white people have some sort of issue with keeping black people down this way. They talk the talk, but don't walk the walk. Moreover, I cannot stand the black community for being silent and allowing this to occur. And believe me, they know exactly what is occurring and are quite content with it doing so.

[pnwmdk]

Originally Posted by dsjj251

Which as I already stated, says nothing about voting for Republicans or the Tea Party. Democrats have talked for the past 3 years about having our own version of the Tea Party so that our elected officials shift back from the left instead of leaning to the right.

Which means you haven't the slightest idea what the the TEA Party is.

It wasn't created by politicians or political parties. It is the natural backlash to the corruption and ideological stupidity that your party promotes.