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Old 12-26-2013, 08:16 PM
 
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Yes, this is a fellow American who has a huge following of other fellow Americans. I'm ashamed of this country.



RWW News: John Hagee Says People Who Don't Like "Merry Christmas" Should Leave The Country - YouTube
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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I don't like or dislike Merry Christmas...i'm indifferent. But i'm damn sure not gonna wish anyone a Merry Christmas...that's for sure.

So sure, i'll leave the country. After he does.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:18 PM
 
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What would you expect from a Christian pastor? I'm a bit confuzled.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:19 PM
 
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I don't like or dislike Merry Christmas...i'm indifferent. But i'm damn sure not gonna wish anyone an Merry Christmas...that's for sure.

So sure, i'll leave the country. After he does.
Why would you not wish someone Merry Christmas? Not a Christian? Don't want to offend anyone?
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:20 PM
 
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What would you expect from a Christian pastor?.
Nothing good, that's for sure.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:21 PM
 
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What would you expect from a Christian pastor? I'm a bit confuzled.
Oh I don't know, compassion, tolerance, acceptance, all those pesky things Jesus taught.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:25 PM
 
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Why do we have such a fascination with what individuals with no real importance in our lives think/say? Who cares what this guy, Phil Robertson, Alec Baldwin, Jesse Jackson, etc etc says?
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:26 PM
 
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Why would you not wish someone Merry Christmas? Not a Christian? Don't want to offend anyone?
HELL NO i'm not a Christian! What do you take me for?

So why would i wish someone a Merry Christmas? I'll just say hello or have a nice day. Or i'll just retort with Happy Holidays. I might say Merry Christmas but only as a response to the same greeting.

But i'm not going to be the first to say it. Absolutely not.
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Old 12-26-2013, 08:27 PM
 
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What are these uniquely "Christian principles" he claims America was founded on?
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Old 12-26-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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Oh my...

Any time someone says 'this country was founded on Christian principles' I know I'm going to have to desperately try not to call the speaker an idiot... because anyone who truly thinks that is kind of an idiot. What Christian principles? Freedom of speech? The right to bear arms? Freedom of religion? I don't think a single verse in the Bible supports any of those; I'd say it's adamantly against them, like freedom of religion. Please bring me a verse from the Bible where God said 'you can believe in a different god, that's fine by me.' There isn't one because the God of the Bible would absolutely never say that, because he often said the exact opposite. So this country was for sure not founded 'on the word of God' as this guy says. This country was founded on the basis of personal liberty, not Christianity. Were some of the founding fathers Christian? Yeah (saying all is a stretch; saying your a Christian and actively being a Christian are not really the same thing in my eyes, particularly on an issue of founding a document based on their beliefs). Did some want Christian philosophy to govern the land? Probably. But it's not the case. Even if some of the rights we are given come from Christianity, it's a loose connection that probably isn't exclusively Christian.

Then this guy goes on to insult the evil humanists. 'No one is asking you to be baptized! No one will pass you the collection plate.' Are you sure? Because I, being a college student and living on campus, have seen men, who honestly appear crazy, shouting things about God and his expectations of you, like getting baptized. Sure, no one is forcing me to be baptized, but no one is forcing you to not celebrate Christmas. I doubt anyone's even asking that of anyone.

And sure, atheists can leave. And why shouldn't they. A country with freedom of religion obviously is a place that atheists wouldn't fit in to... oh wait, that doesn't make sense. That should be a great place for them to live without people asking them to leave. You don't want a secular country? Leave then! Go to the Vatican; the politics there are exclusively Christian! You can say Merry Christmas to everyone!

And one more thing, when was the last time he actually saw a Walkman.
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