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You left out a couple Presidents. Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, and LBJ were responsible for Vietnam.
Had Truman not supplied the French in Vietnam with $80 billion in WW II surplus beginning in 1952, then Eisenhower would never have sent 400 "military advisers" to Vietnam in 1956, or increase that number to 2,000 by 1960. Nor would JFK have increased that number from 2,000 to 20,000 by Nov. 1963. Nor would LBJ have completely fabricated the Gulf of Tonkin incident in August 1964 in order to deceive Congress into supporting a war.
All four Presidents were involved in the chain of events that ultimately led to the Vietnam war.
Yes all were involved but the step from a few hundred to several hundred thousand is a giant step, we have troops in many countries but escalating to a force of that magnitude is key. The domino theory reigned supreme in the 1960's, we should have known better present day.
What problems were solved? Americans had no problems with Iraq. They never posed a threat to us.
While Saddam and the Baath Party remained in power, Iraq was a threat to the US and every other nation, since they sponsored, trained, and provided safe-harbor to international terrorist organizations since 1977.
Thanks to primarily US and UK efforts in 2003, the PLF and its leader Abu Abbas, who were based in Iraq and protected by Saddam and his Baath Party, were completely and utterly destroyed. Once Saddam and his party were removed from power and replaced with a government that does not sponsor international terrorism, our job was done. Problem solved. Time to move on to Iran and Syria where the same problem continues to occur.
Although, due to recent events in Syria, it would be better to sit back and watch to see who wins between Assad and al Qaeda. Whomever is the victor, and it really does not matter who, that is the next target that needs to be destroyed by the US.
While Saddam and the Baath Party remained in power, Iraq was a threat to the US and every other nation, since they sponsored, trained, and provided safe-harbor to international terrorist organizations since 1977.
Thanks to primarily US and UK efforts in 2003, the PLF and its leader Abu Abbas, who were based in Iraq and protected by Saddam and his Baath Party, were completely and utterly destroyed. Once Saddam and his party were removed from power and replaced with a government that does not sponsor international terrorism, our job was done. Problem solved. Time to move on to Iran and Syria where the same problem continues to occur.
Agreed... Here's the rub. We stayed after we accomplished those goals instead of letting the people of Iraq deal with their own problems as they should have.
While Saddam and the Baath Party remained in power, Iraq was a threat to the US and every other nation, since they sponsored, trained, and provided safe-harbor to international terrorist organizations since 1977.
Thanks to primarily US and UK efforts in 2003, the PLF and its leader Abu Abbas, who were based in Iraq and protected by Saddam and his Baath Party, were completely and utterly destroyed. Once Saddam and his party were removed from power and replaced with a government that does not sponsor international terrorism, our job was done. Problem solved. Time to move on to Iran and Syria where the same problem continues to occur.
There are many countries that harbor terrorists, we don't need to send a military invasion force for just that reason. Why the need to invade Iraq, they were far from an immediate threat to the US, same for Iran and Syria.
What problems were solved? Americans had no problems with Iraq. They never posed a threat to us.
Saddam dumped the petrodollar.
Petrodollar warfare - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In 2000, Iraq converted all its oil transactions under the Oil for Food program to euros. When the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003, it returned oil sales from the euro to the USD.
Agreed... Here's the rub. We stayed after we accomplished those goals instead of letting the people of Iraq deal with their own problems as they should have.
We stayed because 2004 was an election year and Bush wanted to be seen as a "war-time" President. Remember what happened to his father? Bush (41) did precisely what he said he would do - He formed a coalition and liberated Kuwait, then he got out. His approval rating in February 1991 was 92%, yet he still lost to Clinton in 1992. I am certain that fact was not lost on Bush (43).
By the end of 2003 the war was won. There was no major military opposition coming from Iraq. There were only insurgents, which is to be expected. Like Bush said in 2003, "major combat operations were over." The only excuse he could make for staying beyond 2003 was "Nation Building," which was something he specifically campaigned against in 2000. However, he wanted to be reelected, and the Iraq war was the best means to accomplish that goal.
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Somehow this must be Bush's fault... Because Barry can't make any.
Wrong. He's made a lot of mistakes. Stop listening to the liberal Kool Aid Brigade. Obama has made a lot of mistakes. Like starting the Iraq war. Don't try to confuse me with facts. You might say that was Bush's war and Obama got us out of there. How dare you. We all know everything was OK when BUsh left and Obama is responsible for everything that happened in the last 12 years.
Wrong. He's made a lot of mistakes. Stop listening to the liberal Kool Aid Brigade. Obama has made a lot of mistakes. Like starting the Iraq war. Don't try to confuse me with facts. You might say that was Bush's war and Obama got us out of there. How dare you. We all know everything was OK when BUsh left and Obama is responsible for everything that happened in the last 12 years.
Yeah, Obama was the #1 warmonger in office at the time, and practically forced everyone else to go along with his plans to destroy a nation that hadn't attacked and posed no threat to us. I can't believe more people don't remember this!!
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Because Barry can't make any.
