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View Poll Results: Do you support life equality?
Yes, I support the equal right to life for all. 42 53.16%
No, I do not support the equal right to life for all. 37 46.84%
Voters: 79. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-04-2014, 07:31 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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1. Its not a life as we describe life when its in the first trimester. After that it gets harder to draw the line but the first Tri, is nothing but a tub of goo.

2. You may as well say an egg is a human life and is aborted every month that a sperm is not allowed to fertilize it. Its a dumb argument based on a stupid idea of life. If you cut your arm off and can keep it alive by artificial means is it murder to cut off that life support? Dumb ass thinking. Now do you neo cons who love the death penalty go so far as to say that that should be stopped? According to you a life is a life. Crazy nut bars.
1. Well, Yes, it depends on how you define "life". Of course, I don't think that the definition of life is particularly relevant here, considering that we kill many non-human animals all of the time.

2. Poor comparisons, since those things are body parts, not whole human beings.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:33 PM
 
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1. I'm not pro abortion, I don't support abortion by anyone I know. However I have read enough about biology and understand the reproductive process enough to form my opinion.

2. I am not going to change yalls minds. I could go to a long post about viability, and the percentage of miscarriage in the first 3 months of pregnancy, and all other kinds of factual information. It won't do me any good, as I said, I would never change your mind.

3. My opinion is that if my neighbors want an abortion, it doesn't effect me, so I don't care.
1. Out of curiosity--if someone supports legal infanticide but not by anyone which he or she knows, would you consider this individual to be pro-infanticide?

2. I don't think that the percentage of miscarriage in the first three months of pregnancy or whatever is particularly relevant in this debate, any more than, say, the fact that 99.9% of all human beings die before age 110.

3. It is spelled "affect", not "effect".
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:34 PM
 
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And thankfully, many understand the difference between an embryo and an infant.
Keep in mind that not everyone considers the difference between an embryo and an infant to be relevant in regards to this, though.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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A tumor is 'alive' and made of human cells, doesn't make it a human life.
A tumor is not a human being.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:37 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Good question. Why do you and other anti-choicers have no regard for the value of a woman's life and her choices?
Who says that we have no regard for the value of a woman's life? We simply need to balance competing interests here.
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:39 PM
 
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1. It has been determined that embryos aren't people.

2. They also aren't citizens.

From the Constitution:

Notice the world "born?"
1. Not everyone agrees with this, though.

2. Neither was I until I became a naturalized U.S. citizen. Your point here is?
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Old 01-04-2014, 07:41 PM
 
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That's actually true but so what? She is entitled to her opinion and to reverse it. It doesn't give extra credence because now she agrees with you.
You are correct here. What Harrier is doing here appears to be an example of the argumentum ad hominem fallacy in reverse.
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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That's actually true but so what? She is entitled to her opinion and to reverse it. It doesn't give extra credence because now she agrees with you.
Of course it is true - Harrier posted it.
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I think women can draw lines around their own bodies just fine.
The trimesters are also fine, since we humans need things to measure and balance and weigh things against. It's like we came up with seconds, minutes, hours, days, etc.....They are made up for us to use. It's ok.
Perhaps so, but Harrier would prefer to see an elected body of representatives do that, rather than a handful of unelected men in black robes.
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Old 01-04-2014, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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You are correct here. What Harrier is doing here appears to be an example of the argumentum ad hominem fallacy in reverse.
LOL! Please explain.

If you are saying that Harrier is not personally attacking anybody, you are correct.
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