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Old 01-06-2014, 01:13 PM
 
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Were you one of the few who supported Ron Paul? If more did, we would have avoided the Iraq and Afganistan debacles, trillions less in debt, with a much healthier economy...

'Remember Fallujah? Shortly after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the US military fired on unarmed protestors, killing as many as 20 and wounding dozens. In retaliation, local Iraqis attacked a convoy of US military contractors, killing four. The US then launched a full attack on Fallujah to regain control, which left perhaps 700 Iraqis dead and the city virtually destroyed.

Many of us were saying all along that we shouldn’t have done that – before we did it. Unfortunately the Bush Administration took the advice of the neocons pushing for war and promising it would be a “cakewalk.” We continue to see the results of that terrible mistake, and it is only getting worse.

Iraq: The ‘Liberation’ Neocons Would Rather Forget by Rep. Ron Paul -- Antiwar.com
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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Iraq was a cake walk. The stated goal of deposing Saddam was accomplished fairly quickly. The answer then becomes, why did we stay there another decade? It's the same question to ask about Afghanistan today and why so many others are itching to expand into other countries.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:21 PM
 
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Were you one of the few who supported Ron Paul? If more did, we would have avoided the Iraq and Afganistan debacles, trillions less in debt, with a much healthier economy...

'Remember Fallujah? Shortly after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the US military fired on unarmed protestors, killing as many as 20 and wounding dozens. In retaliation, local Iraqis attacked a convoy of US military contractors, killing four. The US then launched a full attack on Fallujah to regain control, which left perhaps 700 Iraqis dead and the city virtually destroyed.

Many of us were saying all along that we shouldn’t have done that – before we did it. Unfortunately the Bush Administration took the advice of the neocons pushing for war and promising it would be a “cakewalk.” We continue to see the results of that terrible mistake, and it is only getting worse.

Iraq: The ‘Liberation’ Neocons Would Rather Forget by Rep. Ron Paul -- Antiwar.com
All the 2007 "surge" accomplished was to allow GWB to leave office without a military defeat on his record. For that purpose, it worked.

Though of course, the defeat was deferred, not averted.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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"city virtually destroyed"

Critical point. People who think that force can't solve problems just don't understand...insufficient force fails to solve problems, and in fact creates them.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:25 PM
 
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Agreeing with Ron Paul on his stance of the Iraq War shouldn't be taken as "supporting" him - but he was certainly right on that count.
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Old 01-06-2014, 01:41 PM
 
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Do you know how much money the Neocons made from the War with all the no-bid or quick-bid contracts?
I should say neo-liberals as well since John Kerry had the most invested in defense Corporations of any politician when he was running for President in 2004. Gee, I wonder if he would've put an end to the Wars lol.

Iraq and Afghanistan were the first Corporately fought (and heavily compensated) Wars in our Nation's history.
The War on "Drugs" taught everyone that a never ending war with no specific enemy is a goldmine. If you can privatize the War, even better.

It was wonderful for them and maybe even exceeded expectations.

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Old 01-06-2014, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Agreeing with Ron Paul on his stance of the Iraq War shouldn't be taken as "supporting" him - but he was certainly right on that count.
I agree with this, the OP has found the one thing I agree on with Ron Paul.
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:14 PM
 
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Agreeing with Ron Paul on his stance of the Iraq War shouldn't be taken as "supporting" him - but he was certainly right on that count.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:32 PM
 
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Who here actually served in Iraq?
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:35 PM
 
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Agreeing with Ron Paul on his stance of the Iraq War shouldn't be taken as "supporting" him - but he was certainly right on that count.
He was right about housing and the banks also. Seems he is pretty good with the big things.
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