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Old 01-15-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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That is for one menu. They had two. I was referring to the difference between Norway and Denmark. I bet most Americans think of Scandinavia as one entity. I do not blame them.
Copenhagen is in Denmark and the claim was that a happy meal in Copenhagen cost $32, which turned out to be bogus.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:04 PM
 
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Social security? .
Yes, they call it trygdeavgift.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Glad you know it's in Denmark. I figured most people know where Copenhagen is. The Scandinavian countries are similar in many ways and as has been stated many people refer to them collectively as Scandinavia.

At the time (couple decades ago) the conversion to dollars equaled $32.
A happy meal in Denmark cost $32 dollars a couple of decades ago.......this just keeps getting better.
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Old 01-15-2014, 03:27 PM
 
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Yes, they call it trygdeavgift.
It is part of the personal tax in Norway. The rate is 7.8%.
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Old 01-15-2014, 05:47 PM
 
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Because the US government sucks.
Actually it's because it is a municipal corporation looking for investment return, like any other. Govt operates for its own interest.

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Old 01-15-2014, 05:51 PM
 
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Many places in the south or through mid-atlantic would also be better imo. SFL is especially higher than rest of FL. They seem lower compared to most of the northern snowbird states. They have other high cost, than taxes. Looking at taxes is very misleading. FL counts on tourist and real estate. SFL weather can be too hot for some, but no snow and ice.

Can't really compare someplace in US to Europe or some other places.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:25 AM
 
Location: North America
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Fine. Reading your comments on this thread it sounded like you admired their system, which is a socialist cradle to grave welfare system, where even the natural resources have been nationalized.
If you read many of my other thousands of comments you will hardly come to the conclusion that I support a Mommy Government in America.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:33 AM
 
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I find it really very funny that the OP is using Norway as a model for self-reliance. In Norway, someone earning $500,000 would pay 43.9% in income tax (source) with an extensive social safety net that is much more generous than in the U.S.

As Finn said above, the oil resources of Norway are owned by the government. The Government Pension Fund – Global, is a fund into which the surplus wealth produced by Norwegian petroleum income is deposited for use by the people of Norway. Gee, wouldn't it be nice if in the U.S. we had something like that, instead of private oil companies drilling on public lands and the income going to oil company stockholders instead of the public who own the fields where the oil was extracted?
A lot of people on this thread have COMPLETELY missed the point.

America and Norway have VASTLY different cultures.

If you try to apply the mommy government model to the USA you will have a coast to coast Detroit on your hands.

During the 1930s it was considered shameful to take public assistance but because of a REAL, TANGIBLE economic emergency so it had to be done by millions.

Today, an American is considered a SUCKER if he or she doesn't scoop up as much public assistance as they can.

A small percentage of Americans (Appalachia, those in drug recovery, those recovering from abusive relationships, recent parolees, etc.) need TEMPORARY assistance. Some need permanent assistance (severely disabled folks, for example).

But let's face it...the "crisis" from a few years ago was a Wall Street crisis and the recession is long over.

However, the ranks of the welfare state have skyrocketed and continue to grow during this "recovery".

Apply a permanent mommy government to the U.S. culture of "social assistance" and you have a disaster on your hands.

That was the point.
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Old 01-16-2014, 06:38 AM
 
Location: North America
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If you're saying everyone in Norway is paying into their safety net, then that's also true for America. They have a progressive income tax system (like America) w/ deductions (like America) that can reduce their tax bill to an effective rate of 0% (like America).

In addition, they pay additional taxes on everyday items that also goes into funding various safety nets (like America).

If you're saying America has a "gimme" culture, then so does Norway. But then you did change your argument to Norway has a "gimme" culture b/c they pay for it (which America does too).
So when I go down and pick up my WIC I will have to prove that I've contributed through a payroll deduction or a line on my 1040A?

That is what you're saying, right?
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:30 PM
 
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A happy meal in Denmark cost $32 dollars a couple of decades ago.......this just keeps getting better.
I lived in Denmark a couple of decades ago. You're perfectly right to be skeptical.
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