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Old 01-18-2014, 08:33 AM
 
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...And that's exactly why you and your ilk are dismissed as uninformed.
And the sheep returns to be slaughtered again...

Could that be called a "mutton for punishment"?

 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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And the sheep returns to be slaughtered again...

Could that be called a "mutton for punishment"?
Slaughtered by what? Not ONE of you has ever been able to mount a refutation to the molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory analyses materials referred to in this thread. NOR have you been able to disprove that humans (intelligence) have altered the evolutionary process of dogs, cats, farm animals, crops, etc.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:46 AM
 
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Because the 'missing link' between Creationism and Intelligent Design was found:

Already posted this much earlier in the thread and you just ignored it:

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Hmm lets' see. Because the Kitzmiller v Dover trial showed that Intelligent Design proponents took a Christian Creationist textbook called "Of Pandas and People" and went through it replacing all the words Creator, God Creationist etc
"The term "creationists" was changed to "design proponents", but in one case the beginning and end of the original word "creationists" were accidentally retained, so that "creationists" became "cdesign proponentsists"
Of Pandas and People - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It was later called the "missing link" between Creationism and Intelligent Design.
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I believe you also referred to this earlier:

http://www.antievolution.org/features/wedge.pdf

From the Discovery Institute:

Governing Goal: To replace materialistic explanations with the theistic understanding that nature and human beings are created by God.

The remainder of the piece is a step by step approach to introducing "design theory" into public school curricula.

Intelligent Design is nothing except a mask for the religious doctrine of creationism.
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Yes I did thank you. I think someone else mentioned it too. And as usual it got ignored by the evolution deniers.
Try to follow the thread of the conversation ^^^
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Evolution deniers? NO.

Do you refute the FACT that humans (intelligent beings) have intervened in the evolution of dogs, cats, farm animals, crops, etc.?

Or is it your assertion that the evolution of dogs, cats, farm animals, crops, etc., is ONLY a result of ToE?
 
Old 01-18-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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Slaughtered by what? Not ONE of you has ever been able to mount a refutation to the molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory analyses materials referred to in this thread. NOR have you been able to disprove that humans (intelligence) have altered the evolutionary process of dogs, cats, farm animals, crops, etc.
*snort*

What "molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory analyses materials referred to in this thread"?
You haven't presented even ONE argument to refute yet, despite being asked to do so repeatedly.

And for the umpteenth time, what's with this nonsense line about humans breeding animals and cultivating crops? Of course they did, but how does that support the 'theory' of an Intelligent Designer? Humans are intelligent, they breed animals, therefore that proves some unknown entity created and designed all life on earth? WTH? What sort of 'argument' is that supposed to be?

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Old 01-18-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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Slaughtered by what? Not ONE of you has ever been able to mount a refutation to the molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory analyses materials referred to in this thread. NOR have you been able to disprove that humans (intelligence) have altered the evolutionary process of dogs, cats, farm animals, crops, etc.
Why would anyone want to refute "molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory"?

That is just a string of phrases.

Absurd.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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What "molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory analyses materials referred to in this thread"?
Head-in-sand syndrome on full display.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:02 AM
 
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I think I'll go Comfort myself by eating a human cultivated banana - not the wild original 'design' with the tough skin and inedible seeds.

Have fun battling those imaginary straw men you are designing yourself IC. You don't need me, -you are doing a great job of arguing nonsense with yourself and winning.
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:07 AM
 
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I think I'll go Comfort myself by eating a human cultivated banana
An Intelligent Design-derived banana. Good on ya!
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:13 AM
 
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Why would anyone want to refute "molecular biology, computational biochemistry, chemical thermodynamics, and information theory"?

That is just a string of phrases.

Absurd.
If she thinks that typing the names of a couple of fields of science is an 'argument' then this bigger list should be able to refute her 'argument'


Fields of science are defined as “widely-recognized categories of specialized expertise
within science.”
http://www.isd622.org/cms/lib07/MN01...sofScience.pdf

1) Formal Sciences – branches of knowledge that are concerned with formal systems
a) Mathematics - the study of quantity, structure, space, and change. Some examples and their
definitions include:
 Metrology-- the science of measurement
b) Logic - formal study of the principles of inference and correct reasoning

2) Natural Sciences - fields that use the scientific method to study nature
a) Biology - the science of life and living organisms. Some examples and their definitions include:
 Botany - the study of plants
 Ecology - the study of organisms and their environment
 Entomology - the scientific study of insects
 Ichthyology - the study of fish
 Zoology - the study of the structure, physiology, development, and classification of
animals
b) Chemistry - the science of the composition, structure, properties, and reactions of matter,
especially of atomic and molecular systems
c) Physics - the science of matter and energy and interactions between the two. Some examples and
their definitions include:
 Acoustics - the study of sound
 Aeronautics - aircraft design, construction, and navigation
 Astronomy - the study of outer space
 Mechanics - design, construction, and use of machinery or mechanical structures
 Optics - the study of light and vision
 Robotics - the science of technology in the design, fabrication, and application of robots
d) Earth Science – The study of the planet Earth. Some examples and their definitions include:
 Crystallography - the science of crystal structure and phenomena
 Geography - the study of the earth and its features
 Geology - the scientific study of the origin, history, and structure of the earth
 Hydrology - the study of the properties and effects of water on earth
 Meteorology - the study of weather and atmospheric conditions
 Mineralogy - the study of minerals, including their distribution, identification, and
properties
 Oceanography - the exploration and study of the ocean
 Paleontology - the study of prehistoric life through fossils
 Petrology - the study of the origin, composition, structure, and alteration of rocks
 Seismology - the study of earthquakes
 Volcanology - the study of volcanoes and volcanic phenomena

3) Engineering and Technology – the creative application of scientific principles to design or develop.
Some examples and their definitions include:
 Mechanical Engineering - applies the principles of physics and material science
 Electrical Engineering - generally deals with the study and application of electricity,
electronics, and electromagnetism

Medical and Health Sciences – the applied science dealing with health. Some examples and their
definitions include:
 Anatomy - the study of organisms and their parts
 Cardiology - the medical study of the heart
 Genetics - the study of heredity and inherited traits
 Immunology - the study of the immune system of the body
 Medicine - the science of diagnosing and treating disease and damage to the body
 Nutrition - the study of food and nourishment

5) Agricultural Sciences - the practice and understanding of agriculture. Some examples and their
definitions include:
 Forestry - the science and art of cultivating, maintaining, and developing forests

6) Social Sciences - use the scientific method to study human behavior and society. Some examples and
their definitions include:
 Psychology - the study of the mental process and behavior

7) Humanities – disciplines that study the human condition. Some examples and their definitions
include:
 Anthropology - the study of the origin, behavior, and the physical, social, and cultural
development of humans
 Archaeology - the study of past human lives by examining remaining material evidence
 Cartography - the art or technique of making maps or charts
 Gelotology - the study of laughter
 Linguistics - the study of language and phonetics
 
Old 01-18-2014, 09:19 AM
 
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An Intelligent Design-derived banana. Good on ya!
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