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Your earlier statement that creationists have an explanation for anything is crap. See my post above for an explanation about why (#935). I'm still working on the research on information loss through deletion mutations.
Why do you skip over the main point of every post, and divert like this?
I posted that blatant monkey to man fraud that has been sold to children for 50 + years now. And it's still in use!
But let me correct you .... "God Created Everything" IS AN EXPLANATION ... it's just not the one you prefer.
Do work on that research .... but if you want to speed up the process of your evolving understanding, then stop looking for others to give you your answers .... that's what is the root cause of your lack of understanding at present.
Just analyze the biology of a cell, and of the process involved when DNA replicates itself, and you can see for yourself that genetic errors are by definition, information loss, and genetic code corruption. It's not "rocket science"!!!
This goes back to this deal about "sources". YOU be your source, and don't let others do your thinking for you!!!!
Simpified ... as DNA untwists itself, each of the two strands are being read, and duplicated. Error correction exists within the process, cross checking the segment of code just copied, and most often corrects the error. When such correction fails, the result is a transcription error, and that segment is destroyed. This is a subtraction mutation. Other mutations can occur outside of the replication process, where a segment of the code is damaged or corrupted, such as by radiation damage. This is a code corruption mutation, which is unlikely to result in a positive outcome, anymore than if you opened a program on your computer, and typef over the existing code, with random gibberish text. It is foolish nonsense to think that if you did this often enough, you would accidently add a functional element to your word processing software program, let alone, transform that program into a database program, or an entirely new operating system capable of running on a new and vastly different computer.
But this is precisely what you must believe happens in evolution ... billion of times over.
This you call science, and claim "overwhelming evidence" proves it!
Worse yet, anyone who doesn't buy this load of manure, believes in fairytales? PLEASE THINK.
Why do you skip over the main point of every post, and divert like this?
I posted that blatant monkey to man fraud that has been sold to children for 50 + years now. And it's still in use!
But let me correct you .... "God Created Everything" IS AN EXPLANATION ... it's just not the one you prefer.
Do work on that research .... but if you want to speed up the process of your evolving understanding, then stop looking for others to give you your answers .... that's what is the root cause of your lack of understanding at present.
Just analyze the biology of a cell, and of the process involved when DNA replicates itself, and you can see for yourself that genetic errors are by definition, information loss, and genetic code corruption. It's not "rocket science"!!!
This goes back to this deal about "sources". YOU be your source, and don't let others do your thinking for you!!!!
Simpified ... as DNA untwists itself, each of the two strands are being read, and duplicated. Error correction exists within the process, cross checking the segment of code just copied, and most often corrects the error. When such correction fails, the result is a transcription error, and that segment is destroyed. This is a subtraction mutation. Other mutations can occur outside of the replication process, where a segment of the code is damaged or corrupted, such as by radiation damage. This is a code corruption mutation, which is unlikely to result in a positive outcome, anymore than if you opened a program on your computer, and typef over the existing code, with random gibberish text. It is foolish nonsense to think that if you did this often enough, you would accidently add a functional element to your word processing software program, let alone, transform that program into a database program, or an entirely new operating system capable of running on a new and vastly different computer.
But this is precisely what you must believe happens in evolution ... billion of times over.
This you call science, and claim "overwhelming evidence" proves it!
Worse yet, anyone who doesn't buy this load of manure, believes in fairytales? PLEASE THINK.
The Sky Daddy fraud has been sold to children for much longer than that.
PLEASE THINK.
And off into the distant future, another Historiandude will present to the audience, fossilized remains of a poodle, a pekingese, and a pekapoo, declaring "how can anyone look at these fossils and deny evolution"?
Someone might then suggest, that it is only evidence of dogs doing what dogs do, when they find an opening in the backyard fence.
Of course, that's when the insults start being hurled at God!
And off into the distant future, another Historiandude will present to the audience, fossilized remains of a poodle, a pekingese, and a pekapoo, declaring "how can anyone look at these fossils and deny evolution"?
Someone might then suggest, that it is only evidence of dogs doing what dogs do, when they find an opening in the backyard fence.
Of course, that's when the insults start being hurled at God!
You keep wanting to see the fossilized remains of a half hamster and half hippo. Sorry, evolution doesn't work that way and the fact that creationists keep demanding is a testament to their ignorance.
Well, given the choice of human beings being spiritual eternal beings inhabiting a physical body, or simply accidents created from random mutations of lower life forms, having no purpose other than to exist, then die, game over ... with no real meaning to that existence, do you see how the latter diminishes human value?
Those are not the only choices.
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Do you think it beneficial to dismiss your value in such a manner, and agree that your life has no real meaning or purpose?
If your life has no meaning or purpose, that's entirely your fault. Why try to blame it on anybody or anything else?
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And should this be the message drummed into the heads of impressionable children ... that they have no value, and are just accidents of nature?
As straw men go, that is among the dumbest you've come up with in.. well.. minutes. No such "message" an be found in any biology curriculum in existence... let alone those for "impressionable children."
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None of us know how old the earth is, nor how old modern humans are, nor what preceded us. We only know what we've been told, and what we've accepted as the truth. Nothing more, nothing less. Right?
That would be right only for the willfully ignorant. Anyone with interest or intelligence is perfectly capable of actually assessing the evidence and reasoning and reach the relevant conclusions for themselves. And we know for a fact that those who actually do that overwhelmingly agree with what is currently the scientific consensus. That's how it became the consensus in the first place.
We know what we are willing to learn rather than merely what we've been told. Of course, that implies a certain capacity for critical thinking, accounting for inability to accomplish that otherwise most ordinary of human achievements.
And off into the distant future, another Historiandude will present to the audience, fossilized remains of a poodle, a pekingese, and a pekapoo, declaring "how can anyone look at these fossils and deny evolution"?
Fascinating. I mean... we have always been fully aware that your understanding of science in general and biology in particular was essentially nil. But that you imagine a transitional form between vertebrate classes is somehow comparable to the difference between two breeds of dog is, well, droll.
The Sky Daddy fraud has been sold to children for much longer than that.
PLEASE THINK.
You're so clever ... the way you break down arguments ... and dissect points is quite remarkable! Did you acquire such debating skill in the 1st, or 2nd grade?
Sky daddy indeed .... and I'm rubber and you're glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you! ROTFLMAO
You're so clever ... the way you break down arguments ... and dissect points is quite remarkable! Did you acquire such debating skill in the 1st, or 2nd grade?
Sky daddy indeed .... and I'm rubber and you're glue, anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you! ROTFLMAO
Why do you skip over the main point of every post, and divert like this?
I posted that blatant monkey to man fraud that has been sold to children for 50 + years now. And it's still in use!
But let me correct you .... "God Created Everything" IS AN EXPLANATION ... it's just not the one you prefer.
No it's not an explanation. You haven't told me what God is...because you have no more idea than I do, presumably. What does God do? How does God work?
An atheist merely says "I don't see enough of a reason to believe that God created everything to believe that's what happened." This is the minimum qualification of being one. Some say more.
Thank you for the information though, and thank you for you responses.
Evolution exists within a species........color, claws, adaptations etc....happen on a micro level.
But what people are trying sell us is the notion that a species can macro jump and become another species!! A snake became a bird!! Silly stuff like that.
A monkey became a man......... and no transitional fossils have EVER been found! Darwin said the fossil record would bare witness to his claims and they have NOT!
Ultimately what this boils down to is man not wanting to be accountable for his lifestyle choices. The thought of a God with rules for living and a code of morality is repugnant to him. Because to accept creation is to then topple the other dominoes......and then we have a problem. If the bible is true about God creating everything, then what it says about death, sin and judgment is also true. And we just cant have that, can we??
You were home-schooled, weren't you?
Otherwise, how did you come up with "monkey became a man" (which isn't what science claims), or miss out on the many fossils that show the transitioning of Homo hominids from their earlier forms to our current form?
And nobody said snakes became birds. Dinosaurs, specifically, theropods, evolved into birds.
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